Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!wb3ffv.UUCP!uucp From: uucp@wb3ffv.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.lang.modula2 Subject: Warning From uucp Message-ID: <8808222357.AA06054@wb3ffv.UUCP> Date: 23 Aug 88 14:20:06 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Info-Modula2 Distribution List Organization: The Internet Lines: 72 We have been unable to contact machine 'sarin' since you queued your job. sarin!mail eric (Date 08/21) The job will be deleted in several days if the problem is not corrected. If you care to kill the job, execute the following command: uustat -ksarinN0efd Sincerely, wb3ffv!uucp ############################################# ##### Data File: ############################ >From aplcen!mimsy!rutgers!ucf1vm.bitnet!INFO-M2 Sun Aug 21 02:42:37 1988 remot e from wb3ffv Received: by wb3ffv.UUCP (Smail-2.5) id AA00208; 21 Aug 88 02:42:37 EDT (Sun) Received: by mimsy.UMD.EDU (smail2.5) id AA04652; 19 Aug 88 18:29:54 EDT (Fri) Received: from AJPO.SEI.CMU.EDU by rutgers.edu (5.59/1.15) id AA20837; Fri, 19 Aug 88 18:02:17 EDT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu by decwrl.dec.com (5.54.5/4.7.34) id AA16034; Fri, 19 Aug 88 14:31:58 PDT Received: from BITNIC.BITNET by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with BSMTP id 6979; Thu, 18 Aug 88 11:15:21 EDT Received: by BITNIC (Mailer X1.25) id 2064; Thu, 18 Aug 88 11:13:03 EDT Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET by UCF1VM.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 1478; Wed, 17 Aug 88 22:48:47 EST Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 8612; Wed, 17 Aug 88 22:44:55 EDT Received: from decwrl.dec.com by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.1) with TCP; Wed, 17 Aug 88 22:44:45 EDT Received: from gilroy.pa.dec.com by decwrl.dec.com (5.54.5/4.7.34) id AA19585; Wed, 17 Aug 88 19:45:24 PDT Received: from localhost by gilroy.pa.dec.com (5.54.5/4.7.34) id AA00422; Wed, 17 Aug 88 19:45:22 PDT Message-Id: <8808180245.AA00422@gilroy.pa.dec.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 88 19:45:20 -0700 Reply-To: Info-Modula2 Distribution List Sender: Info-Modula2 Distribution List From: rutgers!wsl.dec.com!haynes Subject: Re: Mesa To: "(no name)" Rion Cassidy writes > gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: > >>When I first came to grad school, and began writing C code again, I >>was unexpectedly disappointed. I had grown used to a Modula-II like >>language (MESA). Some of the things that really bothered me about C >>were: > >[complaints deleted] > >You didn't say where you learned Mesa, but since Xerox is the only >place that uses it, I'd assume you came from there. > >Your comments are interesting because when I interveiwed with Xerox >they said that Mesa was more like C than Pascal or M-2. > >Rion Cassidy >rion@wdl1.arpa As a former member of the Xerox Mesa Group, I'd like to know who told you that! I want to laugh in their face. Modula-2 owes quite a bit to a sabbatical that Niklaus Wirth spent at Parc. Modula-2 is at least a nephew to Mesa, if not a direct decendant. Mesa's relationship to "C"? Hostile? Nonexistant? I'm struggling for the appropriate word. Perhaps "imagined" or "hallucinated" best describes their relationship. Charles "give-me-back-my-SIGNALs-and-MONITORs" Haynes