Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!amdahl!ems!bungia!ahby From: ahby@bungia.Bungia.MN.ORG (Shane P. McCarron) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: smail wants you to register a domain (using Path: for replies) Message-ID: <355@bungia.Bungia.MN.ORG> Date: 26 Aug 88 05:10:16 GMT References: <70@volition.dec.com> <71@volition.dec.com> <935@cbnews.ATT.COM> <44401@beno.seismo.CSS.GOV> <946@cbnews.ATT.COM> Reply-To: ahby@bungia.UUCP (Shane P. McCarron) Organization: Bugoslavian Embassy, St. Paul, MN Lines: 53 In article <946@cbnews.ATT.COM> tgt@cbnews.ATT.COM (Tim Thompson) writes: >It was decided that domains appearing in the d.* files should by UUCP >Zone member ONLY! Non-UUCP Zone domains should go into the u.* files. >We are charging the UUCP Zone members, and as such, they need to be >separated out from the run-of-the-mill map entries. Any and all >services we provide, both now and in the future, will only be made >available to UUCP Zone members, and as such, we need to keep them in >their own separate set of map files. Wait a minute... Are you saying that you are keeping the d. and u. files separate for bookkeeping purposes only? When the d. files were originally introduced to the net, it was explained as a migration path. Eventually, it was said, all sites would be within UUCP Zone domains, and all domains would be in the d. files. D. stands for Domain, not Dumb enough to send money to people who do not earn it. If you are using the d. files as an administrative tool, so that you can keep track of who has paid you, I might suggest that you use something like a database or a spreadsheet. This is certainly more appropriate. >As the Domain Coordinator for the UUCP Project, I am in the midst of an >audit of the d.* files. Any map entry in them that is not for a UUCP >Zone member will be moved to the u.* files by the regional >coordinators. We're not denying the publication of any NIC-recognized >domain, but we DO want to make sure that the d.* files consists purely >of UUCP Zone members. This will be happening over the next couple of >months, and probably won't be finished until the end of the year. Again, I ask why? Why do you want only people who have paid you to be in the d. files? Who gives you the right to do this, anyway? Are you not just holding something that is really part of the greater "Usenet Community Trust?" Aren't these maps just comprised of information that citizens of the net have contributed for the good of the community? And if so, I want to know what makes you, Mark Horton, and Mel Pleasant, keepers of this information. Moreover, what gives you the right to charge people to publish information that they used to be able to publish for free?! I must be missing something... >Also, just because YOU don't understand what goes where doesn't mean >the nobody else does. I happen to understand it perfectly, as does Mark >and Mel, and most (if not all) of the regional coordinators. We are in >the process of implementing the above; just because it doesn't exist >that way now doesn't mean we don't understand. I think we all know that you three understand it, and it may be that many of the regional coordinators have been told some things, and that they understand what they have been told. I know that 2+2 equals 4, but no one ever told me why! I need to have some better reason than "this is a way for us to keep track of who has paid us." I don't keep my accounting data on every system in the free world - you shouldn't either! -- Shane P. McCarron UUCP: ahby@bungia.mn.org Systems Analyst ATT: +1 612 224-9239