Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!bellcore!tness7!texbell!ssbn!carpet!bill From: bill@carpet.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: Dynamic vs. passive routing: site rights Message-ID: <144@carpet.WLK.COM> Date: 28 Aug 88 03:45:15 GMT References: <4902@netnews.upenn.edu> <92@volition.dec.com> <898@l.cc.purdue.edu> Reply-To: bill@ssbn.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) Distribution: na Organization: W.L. Kennedy Jr. and Associates Lines: 41 In article <898@l.cc.purdue.edu> cik@l.cc.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes: >In article , lear@NET.BIO.NET (Eliot Lear) writes: > >> My goal is to improve connectivity as much as possible. I do that by >> exercising my right to reroute. You can read my August 10 posting for >> further information. > >Exercising your right to reroute should give you the responsibility for >correcting delivery failures due to rerouting. I want to straighten just one hair here. I have been one of the most vocal criticizers of rutgers in one of the earlier incarnations of the current war. Both of these folks are right from their own point of view. The log I'd like to toss onto the current fire is something that Mel Pleasant pointed out to me when I was ragging him about rerouting perfectly good paths. A site's published map is, by definition, the way that site chooses to be advertised, i.e. the way the local folks want things to move. I get a bit jumpy about routing something through sitea!uunet, since uunet is pay-fer, But if sitea has uunet (DIRECT+HIGH) I must ASSume that they encourage that path, so I use it. My site has (DEMAND) connections that are published as (EVENING) in order to encourage traffic to flow another way. It's my nickel and I'll rule on how it's spent. While rutgers' rerouting willy-nilly is a nuisance and a frustration, it's about the only site on the net who can claim to have the most up-to-date copy of the sites' wishes. If deliveries fail because of re-routing that's not rutgers' fault, BY DEFINITION, rutgers is correct. Should they take responsibility for some site having an umpteen year old map? I think not. As I zip up my asbestos suit, I suggest that we put pressure on our neighbors to keep their map up-to-date. As a matter of routine ssbn exchanges maps with its neighbors, public and private. What gets used in ssbn's pathalias run? The private ones, of course :-) Since rutgers routes by the public maps my mail goes through Turkey Jaw East Dakota. Who's fault is that? My site talks to rutgers at least once a day but the published map suggests that Turkey Jaw is a better route and rutgers uses it. Should I make them accountable for that? -- Bill Kennedy Internet: bill@ssbn.WLK.COM Usenet: { killer | att | rutgers | uunet!bigtex }!ssbn!bill