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From: ebauman@uceng.UC.EDU (evan bauman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: smail wants you to register a domain (using Path: for replies)
Summary: more on d* and u* entries
Message-ID: <184@uceng.UC.EDU>
Date: 30 Aug 88 05:06:05 GMT
References: <70@volition.dec.com> <71@volition.dec.com> <935@cbnews.ATT.COM> <5349@killer.DALLAS.TX.US>
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati, College of Engg.
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In article <5349@killer.DALLAS.TX.US>, wisner@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Bill Wisner) writes:
> In article <998@cbnews.ATT.COM> mark@cbnews.ATT.COM (Mark Horton) writes:
> >This costs us money, since otherwise some of
> >these folks might join the UUCP Zone at the $50 rate, but we judged
> >that connectivity and service were more important.
> 
> No, it doesn't cost you any more money than normal listings do.
> I'm personally responsible for getting three sites (so far; more are
> coming) into the US domain. All three are sites that already had map
> entries and that would NOT have payed $150 to enter the UUCP Zone.
> 
> I don't say you're evil commercial moneygrubbers. Surely, you ARE
> providing a service. But don't even try to pretend that there aren't
> alternatives. Entering the US domain is just a bit less painless than
> utilizing the UUCP Project, and the truly masochistic can deal directly
> with the NIC. You are simply one of a number of options.
> 
> >The US domain, for
> >example, appears to be subsidized by DARPA and SRI.  If they are
> >willing to do it, I say more power to them.
> 
> Nearly all of the US domain administration is performed by ONE individual
> at ISI. She's not getting paid for her time, either. All that DARPA and
> SRI did was approve the creation of the domain. If the US domain is in
> any way subsidized, it's by ISI. They provide the nameservers. Somehow
> I doubt that that counts.

Just wanted to contribute my dealings with the UUCP maps.

Notre Dame's computers are listed in the u* maps.  At least, the Unix
boxes that handle mail with uniques names are listed.  I sent in
all the entries to Mel at Rutgers.  Notre Dame also has an entry in
d* that lists all the uucp gateways to our sub-domains.  I also
sent in that one.

We are an internet site now, but previously had the u* listings only.
In no case have we ever exchanged documents/money with the UUCP Project.
We may be wrong/unethical/whatever but I have the feeling that we are
not alone.

Incidentally, I wanted to pass on my sincere thanks to Mel and his
staff at Rutgers that maintain the maps.  You guys do more than your
share.  Thanks.

	Evan Bauman
	Dep't of Chem. Eng.
	Univ. of Notre Dame   (posting from U. Cin.)
	evan@ndcheg.cheg.nd.edu