Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!necntc!mirror!rayssd!ukma!david From: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: this might be getting out of hand... Message-ID: <10185@s.ms.uky.edu> Date: 28 Aug 88 23:53:19 GMT References: <676@bacchus.DEC.COM> <881@vsi1.UUCP> <340@ateng.UUCP> <1966@stpstn.UUCP> <3746@palo-alto.DEC.COM> <211@mango.athertn.Atherton.COM> <12212@ncoast.UUCP> Reply-To: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences Lines: 35 In article <12212@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: ... >... Domain-based mailers *cannot* route to unknown sites! >This is the ultimate cause of the problems observed at various gateway >sites, either directly (sun) or indirectly (rutgers, trying to "cover up" >the side effects of sun's attempts at a fix). > >We should require sites using the Internet for mail routing to become >registered in at least the UUCP maps, so that *some* sites can find them. >Otherwise they land in the dead letter room, just like US mail replies. >There just isn't any way to do it otherwise, you can't teach a computer >clairvoyance or telepathy. eh? how is that supposed to improve anything? The maps as-is contain gateways to all the top-level domains, the unofficial domains, and to many second level domains. Thus, you could take out the .uky.edu gateway advertised as being at ukma, and someone on the UUCP network using smail (for instance) would send mail for ukcc.uky.edu to their nearest .edu gateway. Right now their smail would send it to ukma. In either case, ukcc.uky.edu is not announced in the UUCP maps (and likely never will be) yet some random person out in UUCP land knows how to get there -- sort of. Smail is a domain based mailer and can route to unknown hosts. We don't need to register each and every internet host in the UUCP maps in order to do this either. Sorry Brandon -- but I don't like seeing mis-information float around. -- <---- David Herron -- The E-Mail guy <---- ska: David le casse\*' {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET <---- Problem: how to get people to call ...; Solution: Completely reconfigure <---- your mail system then leave for a weeks vacation when 90% done.