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From: kenw@noah.arc.CDN (Ken Wallewein)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: zone= entry in config.tel for Mac N
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Date: 26 Aug 88 15:03:00 GMT
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>...
>>       gateway only.  Kinetics "combined" gateway does not support NBP.
>>       Kinetics has suggested that NBP may be a part of future gateway
>>       software but they have not announced that it will be so.
>...
>Since then, we have compromised.  The zone= parameter specifies that the
>NBP query should be targeted at a SPECIFIC zone name.  An earlier note
>on this list confirmed that this works four zones away.  As noted
>above, this cannot help users of the old Kinetics combined gateway code.
>...

  _Old_ combined gateway code?  You mean there's _new_ combined gateway code?

  Which brings up a good point.  I am constantly frustrated by messages about 
KIP and CAP doing this or that or the other, and the occasional reference to 
what they support that Kinetics stuff doesn't, or vice versa.  Would some kind 
knowledgeable person please post a summary of relative capabilities?

  We have two Kinetics Fastpaths; one currently has KIP (atgw.srec, I
think), the other Kinetics' combgw.srec.  As far as I can see, the KIP stuff 
has to go away - it just can't do the job.  Am I mistaken?  The person who set 
up the KIP stuff, before I got here, said it was 'way better than the Kinetics 
stuff...  but as far as I can see, the rest was hand-waving, at least for our 
purposes.

  As far as I know, KIP/CAP doesn't support Ethertalk or AFP, just TCP/IP-
encapsulated Appletalk.  So how am I going to use my VAX/VMS system as a
Pacer-based Appletalk file and print server using KIP/CAP?  Sure, it's got
TCP/IP.  We talk to it with NCSA Telnet all the time.  And sure, we have Unix
boxes here, but we're not planning to use them for Macintosh file service -
yet. 

  Surely I'm not the only one burdened with this puzzlement...?

 /kenw
                                                                 A L B E R T A
Ken Wallewein                                                  R E S E A R C H
kenw@noah.arc.cdn                                                C O U N C I L