Xref: utzoo comp.sources.d:2622 comp.sources.bugs:1212 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!haven!uflorida!novavax!proxftl!bill From: bill@proxftl.UUCP (T. William Wells) Newsgroups: comp.sources.d,comp.sources.bugs Subject: Interactive Systems (was Re: making ditroff fonts) Keywords: ditroff troff makedev fonts Message-ID: <652@proxftl.UUCP> Date: 29 Aug 88 02:52:02 GMT References: <171@rocky8.rockefeller.edu> <169@fesk.UUCP> <555@pcrat.UUCP> <1988Aug19.183837.3623@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> <1988Aug23.184024.29415@utzoo.uucp> <1988Aug26.200453.12882@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Reply-To: bill@proxftl.UUCP (T. William Wells) Organization: Proximity Technology, Ft. Lauderdale Lines: 40 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: In article <1988Aug26.200453.12882@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> woods@gpu.utcs.Toronto.EDU (Greg Woods) writes: : They did, and so did I! The offending group was Interactive Systems, : via our local friends at HCR. According to other documentation, it : seems that the source form of supplied fonts should also be available, : which it wasn't, as was the sometimes commented terminfo sources. : : Just as a note, DWB 2.0 is yet-another product sold by ISC without : manuals. At least formatted versions of the relevant man pages were on : the disks. OH HO! Another poor Interactive Systems victim. We had a UNIX for our VAX (long since gone) from them. We got essentially *no* support. Aaaarrrrrgh. The go-rounds we had with them have convinced us to avoid them whenever possible. Another example of this was our recent acquisition of their Ten-Plus system. The only reason we use it at all is that our nontechnical staff are too used to it to switch to something else (but with the improvements in PC tools that may well change). The horror story was in *getting* it. Actually in getting their mail helper. They took *months* after the promised delivery date, after many promises of delivery, before we finally got the stuff. ISC has its good points, but their bad points (in customer relations, mostly) vastly outweigh their good ones. It's too bad for the no-doubt many good people in that company that their efforts are wasted by the rest. Sigh. I will *never* recommend to anyone that they buy ISC products because, no matter how good the product, they will get screwed in support. --- Bill novavax!proxftl!bill PS. The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily shared by anyone else and certainly have not been endorsed by the company.