Xref: utzoo comp.text:2322 comp.std.internat:385 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!killer!dcs!wnp From: wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Dates (was American vs. European numerical usage) Summary: Enough already! Message-ID: <186@dcs.UUCP> Date: 27 Aug 88 10:58:43 GMT References: <3900@enea.se> <1785@water.waterloo.edu> <183@dcs.UUCP> <126@jetson.UPMA.MD.US> <764@philmds.UUCP> Reply-To: wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) Organization: DCS, Dallas, Texas Lines: 38 In article <764@philmds.UUCP> hulsebos@philmds.UUCP (Rob Hulsebos) writes: >In article <183@dcs.UUCP>, wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) writes: >> I don't think [the turn of the century] will cause major confusion. >> The world weathered the last turn of the century, too, didn't it? > >I once saw a computer-system in which only the last two digits of the >year of birth could be entered. This worked fine until somebody >born near the end of the 19th century showed up. Enough already! I didn't suggest that there would be NO difficulties associated with (a) the turn of the century or (b) two-digit years. The posting I was responding to lamented the fact that it would be difficult to get EVERYBODY using international-style dates (YYYY MM DD), and that even in countries which use it, the abbreviated, two-digit year was very common. He suggested that THAT would cause major confusion 13 years from now. Programmers who totally forget that this is not the only century have ALWAYS run into problems (see the posting quoted above), it's got nothing to do with 13 years from now; Programmers ALWAYS have had to make allowances in their code for the fact that the general population does not think like a hacker -- even the average computer operator in, say, an insurance company or bank, doesn't think like a hacker. Again: the way people write or don't write their dates will NOT cause major confusion 13 years from now, no more than it's causing now. Sloppy programming, in this area as in many others, has the potential to ALWAYS cause major trouble. People's panic reactions (like taking your money out on Dec. 31, 1999) WILL INDEED cause major confusion and trouble -- computers or no computers, two-digit or four-digit years notwithstanding. At every turn of the century throughout history, it have been freak reactions which have caused confusion, not the inefficiencies or imperfections of everyday practices. -- Wolf N. Paul * 3387 Sam Rayburn Run * Carrollton TX 75007 * (214) 306-9101 UUCP: killer!dcs!wnp ESL: 62832882 DOMAIN: dcs!wnp@killer.dallas.tx.us TLX: 910-380-0585 EES PLANO UD