Xref: utzoo comp.text:2344 comp.std.internat:400 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!ljdickey From: ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.std.internat Subject: Re: All numeric representation of dates Keywords: date time si cut gmt Message-ID: <1802@water.waterloo.edu> Date: 30 Aug 88 13:37:50 GMT References: <187@dcs.UUCP> <3264@edm.UUCP> Reply-To: ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 46 I seem to have stimulated some discussion by mentioning my preference for the representation of dates as "yyyy mm dd". I have more. Someone argues that significant things should come first and then says that days or months are more significant. To him I would say that as one ages, ones perspective changes (smile). But I digress. Let me get to the point. I find lines of the type From site!user Tue Aug 30 07:52:53 EDT 1988 (which appear on mail messages on my machine) to be slightly irritating. Every time I think about them I get the idea that the programmer/designer included the year as an afterthought. I am glad to see that some news posting programs now give date/time with a "GMT" attached, and I wish that more mailers did this. I correspond with people in different time zones, and sometimes find it painful to figure out what time it was when the message was written. I think I would like a line in news and mail files that gives the date and time in a standardized ( = agreed upon ) format. I suppose we will continue to have lines like the above, and/or like Date: 31 Aug 88 20:03:03 EST (or Date: 31 Aug 88 11:03:03 PM EDT :-) ) which seem to abound today, but I would like to see a line like SI-Date: 1988 09 01 03:03:03 GMT presented in SI or ISO format, for some agreed upon time zone (how about GMT, or Coordinated Universal Time). There is no a-priori reason why such a line has to be seen by a reader. (You might have the option now to suppress certain lines in the file.) But a glossy piece of software would process such a line and tell me what time it was here (and/or what time it was there) when my correspondent sent the message. -- L. J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, University of Waterloo. ljdickey@WATDCS.UWaterloo.ca ljdickey@water.BITNET ljdickey@water.UUCP ..!uunet!watmath!water!ljdickey ljdickey@water.waterloo.edu