Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!ucbvax!DBNUAMA1.BITNET!VBRANDT From: VBRANDT@DBNUAMA1.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Looking for details on Atari Floating Point 68881 support Message-ID: <8809061532.AA26180@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 6 Sep 88 15:32:48 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 68 X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 06 Sep 88 17:33:55 SET This is directed primarily at the people at Atari, but since it contains both praise for Atari (!) and information that might interest others, I post it here. I have just bought an "Atari SFP004(tm)" -- that's a 16 MHz 68881 FPU for the expansion slot of the Mega series STs. It comes in a grey cardboard box that's so new it still has spelling errors on it ('coprocesser' :-). I have had my dealer install it, and now it sits in my ST waiting for work. All the people I asked, including my dealer and representatives of Atari Germany, used the same word for the software supplied with the FPU: "none". Now I reread the one (1) sheet of paper that came with the 68881, and I noticed that Atari *DOES* offer software support for the FPU, and I quote (from Atari document C300443-001 Rev. A): "The Atari SFP004 Developer's Kit contains more information on the co- processor and the software you can use with it. The kit also contains a disk of sample source and object files for a set of high precision mathematical routines. (These routines are compatible with the Alcyon C compiler.)" This sounds interesting ! Since I don't have the dev package, I don't have the Alcyon C compiler either, but 'sample source' would definitely be helpful. Unfortunately, Atari Germany knows nothing about this (as usual). The sheet also gives three addresses to contact for additional info: one in the US, one in Canada and one in the UK. Now for my questions: - What exactly is in the 'SFP004 Developer's Kit' ? - Where is it available ? Will it *ever* be available in Germany ? - Where should I ask for more info? - What is the 'suggested price' for it in the US ? Also, the sheet lists two other sources of information, the Motorola 68881 FP Coprocessor User's Manual, which I have (thanks to Motorola UK, Ltd., for sending me a free copy when I just asked for general info !!!), and something called "Software links math chip to 68000/family ,uPs AR233 (Reprinted from EDN; Jan. 23, 1986)". What is this ? Could someone please tell me if this is a journal, magazine etc. ? Finally, the praise to Atari: Thanks for making this product available, one that deserves the 'power without a price' label. (For those who wonder, the 'suggested price' in Germany is DM 398). One of the two other suppliers of FPU cards for the ST in Germany (Weide of Hilden, W.Germany) has already lowered the price for the Mega version from DM 898 to DM 498. Admittedly, they supply FP libs for 6 different compilers ... still, they are expensive. Things aren't so bright on the software side as yet: - Heimsoeth is working on 68881 support for Turbo C (no details yet). I don't know of other C compilers yet. - "gdat" of Bielefeld have announced an APL.68000 version that incorporates 68881 support, but MicroAPL cannot specify any delivery date yet (I suppose MicroAPL spend more time working on their new Mac APL these days.. ). - I'm trying to find out more on the OSS/CCD Pascal, but no answer yet. If anyone out there has some PD source and/or binary for FP routines that make use of the 68881 FPU, I'd be *VERY* interested in a copy (if it's big, send email first). Any and all info is most welcome indeed. PS: This has grown rather long, but I thought it might be of interest. Bitnet: VBRANDT@DBNUAMA1 Volker A. Brandt UUCP: ...!unido!DBNUAMA1.bitnet!vbrandt Angewandte Mathematik ARPAnet: VBRANDT%DBNUAMA1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Bonn, West Germany)