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From: rlf@mtgzy.att.com (r.l.fletcher)
Newsgroups: unix-pc.general,comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: multiple gettys, why use them?
Summary: windy -b ksh
Message-ID: <4141@mtgzy.att.com>
Date: 31 Aug 88 13:49:07 GMT
References: <765@rush.cts.com> <631@bacchus.UUCP>
Organization: AT&T, Middletown NJ
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In article <631@bacchus.UUCP>, darren@bacchus.UUCP (Darren Friedlein) writes:
> In article <765@rush.cts.com> bob@rush.cts.com (Bob Ames) writes:
> >Why all this talk of multiple gettys?  I've never used them.
> >What's wrong with 'Other Users' in the Office?
> 
> I can't find 'Other Users' in UA.  Is this a feature not found in 3.5?
> 
> >                                                The only people
> >that I can think of who would want multiple gettys are those who don't
> >use 'Office' and therefore can't do 'Other Users'.
> 
> This is I.
And I.

I believe this is also one of those "hooks" in the initialization of the
hard disk. When it asks you "Will this machine be used by more than one person?"
If you said no to this you got more available HD space (less swap) and
removed the "Other Users" option from the Office.

If yours is like my situation, you dont have other users but do want
to have multiple windows open you can do what I do:

I just removed the "exec ua" from my .profile and replaced it with exec ksh.
I than open another (or more) window via "windy -b ksh". With the "improved"
wmgr it is one key-stroke to go from one window to the next. The only
bad side effect this has is if you crtl-d in the parent window, you
run getty on that window and have to login again.

For those that do run ua but dont want windows remotely (1200 baud windows
are slooooow) just lie to /etc/profile by telling it you have a 2621
or some-such terminal type that it does not support windows on. Then
pick "run default shell" option from the next menu.

BTW, I am also running 3.5 but when my window freezes the machine is
DEAD, no key presses are recognized nor will it answer an incoming
call on the modem. I have been running 3.5 for over 2 years now
and have never been able to recuperate from a real "freeze" without
rebooting. What you describe sounds more like some application
died or left you in "raw" mode. "Raw mode" can be easily fixed by
typing "^J stty sane 9600 ^J".


				Hope this helps,

				Ron Fletcher
				AT&T Bell Laboratories
				Middletown NJ