Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!mailrus!ames!vsi1!octopus!pete From: pete@octopus.UUCP (Pete Holzmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: QEMM, and DesqVIEW, and PC-NFS, and findings... Message-ID: <342@octopus.UUCP> Date: 31 Aug 88 15:34:52 GMT References: <337@octopus.UUCP> <588@tapa.UUCP> <339@octopus.UUCP> <4662@saturn.ucsc.edu> Reply-To: pete@octopus.UUCP (Pete Holzmann) Distribution: na Organization: Octopus Enterprises, Cupertino CA Lines: 57 In article <4662@saturn.ucsc.edu> lupin3@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (-=/ Larry Hastings /=-) writes: > According to the docs for QEMM, it takes 1.5k of your 640k space. How much >less could 386ToTheMax take? It's been a while since I ran 386ToTheMax (more >on that later) but I remember that while their display was cooler looking, >it isn't any more informative. Well, 386ToTheMax gives me 2K bigger max partition sizes than QEMM, under otherwise identical configurations. 2K ain't much, but it doesn't hurt. I think the difference has to do with how well the programs make upper DOS memory available. The XDV loader seems to be able to better squeeze pieces of DV into high memory when 386max is in use. Note that the '1.5K used by QEMM' is just for the program itself. DesqView takes up a much bigger pile of memory; the actual amount taken depends on how well QEMM/386max does its job. >+---------- >| 3) Quarterdeck doesn't like Qualitas. They keep trying to make Desqview >| incompatible with 386max. F'rexample, if you don't have the latest >| 386max (2.62), it won't work with the Desqview extended memory >| driver (QEXT.SYS). Qualitas will send an upgrade for free. >+---------- > > I dunno about that. That is an interesting theory, but... I'll ask tomorrow >and see what Quarterdeck has to say about it. They said '386max? Yeah, well, we all know about *them* (wink wink tone of voice). They just aren't as good as QEMM.' [Interesting, since QEMM seems to be picking up all the 386max features eventually, after 386max has had them awhile. 386max not very good, but worth copying? Sounds to me like we have a couple of software houses in hot competition with each other! I think I like it, actually. WE win! > Now on to other stuff... I would try out using 386ToTheMax with our copy >of DesqVIEW (a beta copy of a new release, procured at the DesqVIEW API >conference), but I can't use 386ToTheMax with our 3Com 3c505 cards and their >drivers for PC-NFS. Just plain don't work. Since you can tell 386max to leave any area of RAM/ROM alone, this surprises me. Perhaps you need to use some of the command line options to customize your installation? I got an interesting reaction from Quarterdeck when I asked about the new beta release: "I can't say anything about that. We have not announced any new product. Anything you may have heard is just a rumor. I could lose my job if I said anything." Such secretiveness about something that they blabbed all about at their own API conference? I'd hate to have a tech support job there. Overworked and left in the dark too. I hope the new Desqview version lives up to its billing though. Getting multiple full 640K partitions would be a real win! Pete -- OOO __| ___ Peter Holzmann, Octopus Enterprises OOOOOOO___/ _______ USPS: 19611 La Mar Court, Cupertino, CA 95014 OOOOO \___/ UUCP: {hpda,pyramid}!octopus!pete ___| \_____ Phone: 408/996-7746