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From: leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d,comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: requests to post zoo
Keywords: ZOO COPYRIGHT
Message-ID: <1043@bucket.UUCP>
Date: 4 Sep 88 20:52:11 GMT
References: <3668@bsu-cs.UUCP> <521@irs3.UUCP> <3757@bsu-cs.UUCP> <522@irs3.UUCP> <3839@bsu-cs.UUCP>
Reply-To: leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson)
Organization: Rick's Home Grown Unix; Portland, OR
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In article <3839@bsu-cs.UUCP> dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) writes:
<The reason why I chose $8.00/hour as a reasonable maximum rate for
<online distribution was because there were some services (People/Link,
<GEnie) at around $5/hour and there were some (BIX, CompuServe, The
<Source) at about $12-15/hour.  If I had to set a limit at all, it had
<to fall in between these two clusterings to have any real meaning.  It
<used to be $7/hour, but I bumped it up to make sure that nobody would
<have to distribute the software at a loss.  (Recently, another type of
<commercial service, uunet, has been created, for UNIX machine-to-
<machine communications.  It started at around $4/hour via Tymnet, and
<went up by a couple of dollars recently.)  I see nothing unreasonable
<about my rate limit.

There's just a slight problem here...

CIS rates depend *strongly* on the baud rate! At 300 bps it costs around
$6.50/hr. 450 bps is the same. 1200 & 2400 are $12.75, and higher rates
(which require special arrangments) cost a *lot* more. 

So we have the sutuation where they could distribute it, but only if they
modify the system to restrict downloads at certain baud rates... 

Compuserve may be expensive, but *I* picked them (long ago) because they
were the only service that would direct bill me. Most other serviices 
*still* require that you be billed thru a credit card (which I neither
have nor want). They also seem to have the largest subscriber base.

I'm not saying "You have to let them distribute it." I am merely pointing
out a few things...

As for the restrictions on redistribution, CIS's policies are *not*
incompatible with your copyright. All they claim is a compilation 
copyright, and in any case if the copyright holder speciificly request that
they not go after someone for redistrubting the software (and it sounds like
your copyright notice does so) they won't. They just don't want someone
downloading entire "libraries" for them and thern offering the data to
others for profit.  I can see their point on this!

-- 
Leonard Erickson		...!tektronix!reed!percival!bucket!leonard
CIS: [70465,203]
"I used to be a hacker. Now I'm a 'microcomputer specialist'.
You know... I'd rather be a hacker."