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From: mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Re: More John Dvorak comments
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Date: 5 Sep 88 14:57:00 GMT
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Nf-From: uxe.cso.uiuc.edu!mcdonald    Sep  5 09:57:00 1988



>   OK everyone, how about we stop Mac Bashing. I am a programmer who works
>with both machines, and I think that the comments made above are pretty
>biased. On the Mac, you dont need a command line. If you want to open document
>Y created with program x, you point to the icon of the document and open it.
>The program that created it is automatically invoked. You dont need a command
>line; the operating system takes care of it.
But you DO need a command line if you want to do what YOU want to do, rather
than what the brain-damaged Finder wants to do! I often want to create
a file Y with program x (an editor) and then compile it with program
Z (the compiler) and maybe even give it to program K (Kermit) to send
off to the Usenet as an example. I tried using a Mac and found it
EXTREMELY frustrating. On rare occasions, point and click is nice-
on MS-DOS you just invoke a point and click shell (many are available).
Is there a full Unix or MS-DOS style shell for the Mac, that allows
you to throw the finder in the trash (oh saying that about a Mac is
really fun!). There wasn't when I tried it about two years ago.

Doug McDonald