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From: vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,comp.unix.microport,news.groups
Subject: Re: why we have to keep comp.unix.xenix
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Date: 24 Aug 88 02:20:36 GMT
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Apparently, we have a slight lag in news propagation.  It is now a
well-established and agreed-upon fact that we must keep comp.unix.xenix
around because there are so many non-Intel Xenix machines around (and
because it is widely believed that Xenix on Intel machines will always
be different from UNIX on Intel machines, but let's not argue about
that, it doesn't matter, we've already decided this issue.)

John Plocher is either not reading my articles, or he is deliberately
waiting for someone else to raise a point similar to one I've made and
then arguing against the inferior implementation of my idea.  Groups
can be renamed, and the way I want to accomplish that with the
comp.unix.microport group is: slowly, gradually, passively.  In any
case, this has nothing to do with comp.unix.xenix, which we are going
to have to keep.  Please, let's all stop talking about this, it's a
closed and decided issue.

Someone is trying to collect proposals.  Post yours or mail it.  Mine,
for the record, is:

	comp.unix.sys5.286	(for V/AT and similars)
	comp.unix.sys5.386	(for 386/ix and derivatives)
	comp.unix.xenix		(for Xenix on all manner of CPUs)
	comp.unix.microport	(wait for volume to fall off,
				 then delete it.  Post messages
				 to it regularly telling of the
				 existence of comp.unix.sys5.*  I
				 will do this.)

No matter what happens with the Xenix/UNIX merge, the result will fit
into this scheme.  No matter what happens with the SunOS/UNIX merge,
the results will fit into this scheme.  No matter what happens anywhere,
UNIX on the 286 will always be fundamentally bizarre and uninteresting
to people with 386 machines, so this scheme will hold out.

If someone with a reputation for solidity wants to moderate either of
the comp.unix.sys5 groups, please contact me by e-mail.  I think these
groups should be moderated, but I'm not willing to do it myself so I
can't propose it.
-- 
Paul Vixie
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