Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!gamma!mibte!ccd700!fmeed1!bell From: bell@fmeed1.UUCP (John Bell) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Is UNIX(TM) Multi-User? Summary: "Is UNIX an O.S.?" - reference for the quote Message-ID: <536@fmeed1.UUCP> Date: 31 Aug 88 23:29:39 GMT References: <880@taux01.UUCP> <213@bhjat.UUCP> <1640@uop.edu> <8368@smoke.ARPA> <365@pigs.UUCP> Organization: Ford EED, Dearborn Michigan Lines: 37 > In article <365@pigs.UUCP> haugj@pigs.UUCP (Joe Bob Willie) writes: > ... >i recall reading once that dennis didn't consider unix >to even be an operating system. I believe that the refered-to comment is in "UNIX Implementation" by *Ken Thompson*, published in The Bell Systems Technical Journal, Vol. 57, No. 6, Part 2 [July-August 1978] (the famous (first) UNIX issue). In section 4.3 of that article, Ken says (remember, refering to Version 7!): " There are some other things that the system does for the user - a little accounting, a little tracing/debugging, and a little access protection. Most of these things are not very well developed because our use of the system in computing science research does not need them. There are some features that are missed in some applications, for example, better inter-process communication. _The_UNIX_kernel_is_an_I/O_multiplexer_more_than_a_complete_operating_ _system_. [Emphasis added by bell@fmeed1] This is as it should be. Because of this outlook, many features are found in most other operating systems that are missing from the UNIX kernel. For example, the UNIX kernel does not support file access methods, file disposition, file formats, file maximum size, spooling, command language, logical records, physical records, assignment of logical file names, logical file names, more than one character set, an operator's console, an operator, log-in, or log-out. Many of these things are symptoms rather than features. Many of these things are implemented in user software using the kernel as a tool. " __________ The quotation is copyright 1978 American Telephone & Telegraph Company, and is reproduced without its permission. UNIX is a (registered?) trademark of AT&T. -- John D. Bell, c/o Ford Motor Co. Electronics Division - DPTC, Dearborn, MI voice: (313) 845-3040 UUCP: ...!uunet!umix!teemc!fmeed1!bell "You may be right, I may be crazy, But it just may be a lunatic you're looking for." - Billy Joel