Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!smb From: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven Bellovin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Plan 9? (+ others) Message-ID: <10533@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Date: 23 Aug 88 16:19:40 GMT References: <846@yunexus.UUCP> <282@umbio.MIAMI.EDU> <848@yunexus.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 33 ``Plan 9'' is not a product, and is not intended to be. It is research -- an experimental investigation into a different way of computing. The developers started from several basic assumptions: that CPUs are very cheap but that we don't really know how to combine them effectively; that *good* networking is very important; that an intelligent user interface (complete with dot-mapped display and mouse) is a Right Decision; that existing systems with networks, mice, etc., are not the correct way to do things, and in particular that today's workstations are not the way to go. (No, I won't bother to explain all their reasoning; that's a long and separate article.) Finally, the UNIX system per se is dead as a vehicle for serious research into operating system structure; it has grown too large, and is too constrained by 15+ years of history. Now -- given those assumptions, they decided to throw away what we have today and design a new system. Compatibility isn't an issue -- they are not in the product-building business. (Nor are they in the ``let's make another clever hack'' business.) Of course aspects of Plan 9 resemble the UNIX system quite strongly -- is it any surprise that Pike, Thompson, et al., think that that's a decent model to follow? But Plan 9 isn't, and is not meant to be, a re-implementation of the UNIX system. If you want, call it a UNIX-like system. Will Plan 9 ever be released? I have no idea. Will it remain buried? I hope not. Large companies do not sponsor large research organizations just for the prestige; they hope for an (eventual) concrete return in the form of concepts that can be made into (or incorporated into) products. --Steve Bellovin Disclaimer: this article is not, of course, an official statement from AT&T. Nor is it an official statement of the reasoning behind Plan 9. I do think it's accurate, though, and I'm sure I'll be told if I'm wrong...