Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!uwmcsd1!bbn!spdcc!ima!think!barmar From: barmar@think.COM (Barry Margolin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: ranking on IBM (was Re: AT&T Joining OSF) Message-ID: <26931@think.UUCP> Date: 29 Aug 88 19:51:19 GMT References: <347@spies.UUCP> <670025@hpclscu.HP.COM> <269@quintus.UUCP> <2029@swatsun.cs.swarthmore.edu> <6855@potomac.ads.com> Sender: news@think.UUCP Reply-To: barmar@kulla.think.com.UUCP (Barry Margolin) Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA Lines: 22 In article <6855@potomac.ads.com> jtn@potomac.ads.com (John T. Nelson) writes: >IBM probably sees to it that you NEED that support by developing >hardware and software that is either unreliable or unapproachable by >anyone except trained individuals. Where have you been for the last thirty years? IBM has one of the best reputations in the industry for their hardware. As for self-service, how many computer vendors actually allow sites to do their own servicing? I doubt that there are many mainframe systems that are serviceable by untrained personnel. Field service is a fact of life in the large-system world. And IBM's field service organization also has a good rep. Of course, I wouldn't ever want to have to use IBM systems much, but that is because of the software. Barry Margolin Thinking Machines Corp. barmar@think.com {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar