Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!uunet!steinmetz!davidsen From: davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: AT&T Joining OSF Message-ID: <12016@steinmetz.ge.com> Date: 30 Aug 88 14:31:24 GMT References: <347@spies.UUCP> <670025@hpclscu.HP.COM> <24355@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <1991@stpstn.UUCP> <381@infmx.UUCP> Reply-To: davidsen@crdos1.UUCP (bill davidsen) Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY Lines: 39 In article <381@infmx.UUCP> aland@infmx.UUCP (Dr. Scump) writes: [ ... ] | *less* than lowercase. I also prefer EBCDIC hex dumps to ASCII octal | dumps. Does that make me brain-damaged? (let me rephrase that; do these | factors *alone* make me brain-damaged? :-] :-] :-] ) No, no, it's probably due to other causes...;-) | The thing I *really* can't get used to: having every character I type | (in raw mode applications, anyway) cause an interrupt, instead of being | able to key in a screen worth before bothering the host system... No smiley on this one; having each character cause an interrupt is not related to either UNIX or ASCII. UNIX supports having a smart device driver which handles the characters and stores data via DMA, although it costs more to have smarts on the serial or IP device. An example of this is the Arnet board for Xenix or ix386, which does just what you imply. Since STTY options allow some character level editing, SOMETHING has to look at every character to provide for delete character and line. It need not be the main CPU. ================ flame suit and heavy duty jock on ================ one of the few things I like about DOS and VMS is that the characters are echoed as they are read, not as they are typed. This prevents display of info designed to be read "no echo." Fortunately there seems to be no reason why this can't be done in a device driver, even if it's not (I would like to think it is and I haven't found it). I expect to be told by some people that this would be bad because it's a feature of ugly o/s's, but I'm going to write that device driver one day. ================================================================ -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs | seismo}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me