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From: wes@obie.UUCP (Barnacle Wes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix,comp.unix.microport,news.groups
Subject: Re: why comp.unix.{segment,linear} won't work
Summary: This is getting ridiculous
Message-ID: <171@obie.UUCP>
Date: 27 Aug 88 07:26:21 GMT
References: <25145@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <465@sp7040.UUCP> <11643@steinmetz.ge.com> <83@volition.dec.com>
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In article <272@hawkmoon.MN.ORG> det@hawkmoon.MN.ORG (Derek E. Terveer) writes:
# ..., we could
# really come up with two types of Unix groups:
# 	comp.unix.segment	(or comp.unix.seg)
# 	comp.unix.linear	(or comp.unix.lin)

In article <83@volition.dec.com>, vixie@decwrl.dec.com (Paul Vixie) writes:
> The 80386 is arguably a linear-addressed chip, in native mode.  It has
> pages, and the segments can be made large enough to be invisible.  Perhaps
> the segments can even be turned off, I don't remember.
> 
> But this split won't work.  Some CPUs are neither segmented nor linear, or
> they're both.  I could see a small amount of merit in {paged,swapped}, but
> even there the distinction blurs on some CPUs.

OK, so let's really do it right:

	comp.unix.segmented.swapped.byte-backwards	(i.e. 286)
	comp.unix.segmented.paged.byte-backwards	(i.e. 386)
	comp.unix.linear.paged.byte-backwards		(i.e. VAX)
	comp.unix.bank-selected.swapped.byte-backwards	(i.e. PDP)
	comp.unix.linear.swapped.sensible-addresses	(i.e. 68K)
	comp.unix.linear.paged.sensible-addresses	(i.e. 68020, 030)
	comp.os.minix.wimps				(for PCs and clones)
	comp.os.minix.real				(for STs and such)

The 286 and 386 are very different processors, and the OSs for them are
very different, too.  comp.unix.microport was formed for Microport
users, leave it alone.  Xenix is a half-breed bastard, let their users
have their own little corner.  So we have:

	comp.unix.i286		Unix systems on the 286 processor
	comp.unix.i386		Unix systems on the 386 processor
	comp.unix.microport	For Microport owners/users
	comp.unix.xenix		For SCO/Microsoft/etc. owners/users
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