Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:3742 rec.video:4153 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!mcnc!unccvax!dya From: dya@unccvax.UUCP (York David Anthony @ W06BF-TV, Concord, NC) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.video Subject: Re: VCR comercial eliminator Message-ID: <1087@unccvax.UUCP> Date: 2 Sep 88 14:28:07 GMT References: <257@ivucsb.UUCP> <16314@apple.Apple.COM> <17659@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> <1039@mtund.ATT.COM> Organization: Univ. of NC at Charlotte, Charlotte, NC Lines: 38 In article <1039@mtund.ATT.COM>, smc@mtund.ATT.COM (Steven Casagrande) writes: > A few years back there was a device that would detect the Color SubCarrier > transmitted by the TV Station. Apparently, if you were trying to tape > a B&W movie (i.e., late at night), it would detect the switch from > the B&W movie to the COLOR commercial, and would then stop the tape Not no more, however. The FCC has (or is imminently about to) repeal the "turn off the burst during monochrome programs" rule, because it is a pain in the ass. The reason that killing the burst is such a pain is that distribution channels for programs, even monochrome programs, distribute via videotape, etc...synchronising the stuff through a TBC (so it can be routed through the TV station plant and thence to the transmitter, synchronised with all the other TV station plant) requires the presence of color burst to derive the sampling clock, etc. The usual burst-killing method involved switching in (electronically) an appropriate trap during the burst flag interval, or otherwise obliterating it at the transmitter. WTBS's burst is present during monochrome programs (on satellite distribution) and I'm pretty sure that WJZY (local Belmont station) leaves it on all the time as well. There was also a "turn off the 19 kc pilot tone" rule for FM stations which is repealed. I actually did this during my God Squad shift days at a local FM. Technically, you'd have to turn it off for commercials at this (and many) stations with mono cart machines.... Since cross-chroma is no longer a problem with encoders and decoders, it looks like the color burst is "defacto" part of the commercial TV RS-170A sync signal. (Ever try to build a purely monochrome TBC??? Yecch!) York David Anthony DataSpan, Inc