Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Ignorant assumption Message-ID: <2346@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 6 Sep 88 16:51:21 GMT References: <1369@garth.UUCP> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 29 From article <1369@garth.UUCP>, by smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan): " ... " Frequent mistake--to do science you have to accept the scientific method on " faith. Why do I have to do that? I don't think anyone has to do that. It's just as well people don't have to know that the method will work before they will use it, since theories and experiments sometimes fail, don't they? If you want to treat the failures as discrediting the theories and experiments always, rather than the scientific method, you are confusing science and magic -- when the magic doesn't work, the magician says: "Well, I didn't do it right this time." " Essentially science states that the universe is rational and " objective. No, it doesn't. In those instances where theories have worked well, we can reasonably conclude that in the relevant domains the universe was to a certain extent lawful. If you want to take a leap of faith and go beyond this to adopt science as a religion, of course you may. You and Mr. Wells. " Ultimately, any way of viewing the universe is based on assumptions " taken on faith. Maybe, but why view the universe? We need to adopt provisional assumptions to get on, but there's no need to have faith in them. That's as harmful in ordinary life as it is in science. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu