Newsgroups: comp.bugs.4bsd Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: bin owns stuff (was: Installing 4.3-Tahoe on a VAX) Message-ID: <1988Sep15.182719.16244@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <26049@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <5416@zodiac.UUCP> <21791@sgi.SGI.COM> <8481@smoke.ARPA> <4828@saturn.ucsc.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 88 18:27:19 GMT In article <4828@saturn.ucsc.edu> haynes@ucscc.UCSC.EDU (Jim Haynes) writes: >Now a second related issue is why have all those binaries mode 755 or >worse instead of 711, with 755 to be used only where needed? ... Well, for one thing, it's awfully hard to run a debugger on a misbehaving program when you can't read the binary. 711 can be done, but the headaches outweigh the advantages for sites that aren't desperately concerned about security. (And surely you don't think that trying to keep the crackers ignorant is going to help much -- they probably know more than you do about your system's weaknesses.) -- NASA is into artificial | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology stupidity. - Jerry Pournelle | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu