Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!phri!roy From: roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: My recent flame about Ungermann-Bass Message-ID: <3472@phri.UUCP> Date: 10 Sep 88 14:57:32 GMT References: <3445@phri.UUCP> Organization: Public Health Research Institute, NYC, NY Lines: 46 A couple of weeks ago, I posted to this group an article entitled "UB (Ungermann-Bass, aka Utter Bullshit) flame". At this point I want to follow up to some of the points I made and issue a partial apology to UB. After my note to the net, if nothing else, I did get the results I was after. UB has agreed to honor their quote, even though the salesperson exceeded her authority in offering discounts, and even though I didn't have the quote in writing, and UB hadn't yet officially accepted the Purchase Order (i.e. they hadn't signed and returned the "confirmation copy" of the order). Among other communications, I received a phone call and a letter from Michael Gardner, Vice President for Sales and Marketing, who apologized for what had happened. BTW, I understand that the salesperson is no longer with the company. Now, for the (partial) apology; I think I over-reacted a bit. I'm a firm believer in taking complaints as high as I have to in order to get what I want (and think I am entitled to). With a company, taking it to the top means writing a letter to the president of the company. With municipal services, it means writing a letter to the Mayor. When even that fails, airing your beef in public is sometimes the only recourse, with the intent of shaming your target into submission. I've done all three, and more than once. I'm usually successful. The reason I say I over-reacted is that I jumped to the last resort before I had exhausted all the other possibilities. Not only that, but I could have found a way to word my note to convey the same information without being quite so defaming. I'm usually a pretty calm guy, but you couldn't guess it from what I wrote that day. While there is nothing in what I wrote which is factually incorrect, it's unnecessarily vitriolic and suggests something which I don't think is really true: that UB, as a company, is some scheming, unethical monster out to screw their customers. What I think really happened is that one employee put the company in a rough position and management made some poor judgement calls in trying to resolve the problem. While I still think UB did the Wrong Thing, that one mistake was not enough to justify the public vilification I gave them. The only unanswered question is whether UB would have changed their mind and agreed to honor their commitment had I not posted my note. While the true answer will never be known, I'd say that there was at least a fair chance that they would have, had I spent another few days chasing executives on the phone. -- Roy Smith, System Administrator Public Health Research Institute {allegra,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers}!phri!roy -or- phri!roy@uunet.uu.net "The connector is the network"