Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!apple!rutgers!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!smb From: smb@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com (Steven Bellovin[jsw]) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Break definition (Some Answers from the Standards, LONG) Message-ID: <10607@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> Date: 16 Sep 88 14:59:22 GMT References: <402@ucrmath.UUCP> <6095@galbp.LBP.HARRIS.COM> <39157@pyramid.pyramid.com> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 14 My thanks to csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) for an excellent article. One point I should add: many (most? all?) modems use a ``long break'' -- on the order of 3 seconds -- to indicate disconnect. That is, modems can be strapped so that when they wish to hang up (for example, if the host drops DTR), they will first transmit a 3-second break to the remote modem. Similarly, when they receive such a break signal, they will hang up, too. I suspect (but do not know for certain) that this usage dates back to half-duplex modems, which of necessity do not transmit a continuous carrier. Rather, they only generate carrier when they wish to transmit. Thus, the remote end cannot tell when the local end has hung up -- no carrier may simply mean that the modem doesn't have anything to say. --Steve Bellovin