Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!utah-gr!utah-cs!sunset.utah.edu!u-dmfloy From: u-dmfloy%sunset.utah.edu@utah-cs.UUCP (Daniel M Floyd) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: R.I.P. Byte Message-ID: <5717@utah-cs.UUCP> Date: 10 Sep 88 08:22:35 GMT References: <402@mfgfoc.UUCP> <674@proxftl.UUCP> <2596@sugar.uu.net> <7031@well.UUCP> <1355@percival.UUCP> <5708@utah-cs.UUCP> <1357@percival.UUCP> Sender: news@utah-cs.UUCP Reply-To: u-dmfloy%sunset.utah.edu.UUCP@utah-cs.UUCP (Daniel M Floyd) Organization: University of Utah, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 87 In article <1357@percival.UUCP> gary@percival.UUCP (Gary Wells) writes: >In article <5708@utah-cs.UUCP> u-dmfloy%sunset.utah.edu.UUCP@utah-cs.UUCP (Daniel M Floyd) writes: >>May I offer an alternative scenario: >>BYTE's staffers are unconcerned with our dribble here. They know fluff >>when they see it. Info-World on the other hand perhaps has to fight >>hard any where it can or maybe by conincidence an employee from Info-World >>read it. > >Dribble? I _hope_ you are wearing your flame-proof suit the next time you >check your mailbox! Nope. I keep a fire extinguisher in hand every time I read the net or read mail. I also keep my flamethrower nearby for special occasions. 8) Go ahead netland...hmmm...Clint Eastwood flicks pop to mind. 8) >I don't know about you, but I consider myself an above average >computer user. ...[some interesting credentials]... >...[you may find that] I am not atypical of the net-users. I think you're right. I feel I'm one of those above average people. Below average have too much dificulty loging on, much less actually contributing anything. (Of course there are exceptions.) The majority of people I've dealt with on the net, know quite a bit about certain subjects. >Sure, we have a few, prolific, >"dribble" (try drivel, I think it's closer to what you mean) mongers on >the net. Byte has Pournelle, so we're even. Oops! Right again. Drivel! My brains neurons must have droped a bit. 8) >Fluff? Write a letter to Byte for us. ...[advice on what to include in >the letter]...I think you're main >problem is that you're not subscribed to right groups. It was only an alternative suggestion. And, they *might* consider attacks on them here "fluff". No problem here. I've got lot's of good news groups. Thank you. 8) You're point is a good one. Byte simply doesn't respond the way the net does. >We aren't representitive of the Magazines, but they are supposed to be >representitive of _us_. They are not, which is the point of this thread. Yes. Representitive of our interests. Of *us*, no. Perhaps Byte is too big to cover everyone's interests like you want. >>By the way, I would think my response would at least equal >>if not outweight the Info-World guy as far as testimonials go. > >You represent the 2nd vote in favor of Byte, as opposed to a lot against >anybody kept track?). Info-world _wasn't_ a testimonial, and I think >it was "she", not a "he". The fact that I am the 2nd vote here only says something about the net, not Byte. (I'm reiterating. I know.) She? My appologies. I didn't take note of the name, and gender is so hard to tell with typed words. Maybe she should use a feminine font. 8) >The point was not that it was a testimonial, but that it was a _response_ >that could be identified with the publication. BYTE has not done the same. >THAT is the point. Point well taken. (Too bad my flame-proof suit isn't puncture-proof. 8) ) >>I am not afiliated with byte. >Again proving the point, BYTE doesn't care, even if its readers do. ^^^^^^^ Nope. It's just supporting evidence. >If you want objectivity, better get off the net. We are a HIGHLY opionionated >group, on almost every subject. That's WHY other people ask us for advice... >we have the knowledge and the facts to back up our opinions, thanks to the net. >And that is ALSO why I (and apparently the net in general) thinks that BYTE >(and other) magazines should represent themselves here. Oh no! Not the net. Take my newspaper instead. 8) You're right WE are opionionated. Worse yet, I'm being persuaded toward your opinion (*gasp*). 8) Byte is far from dead, but your arguments so far have been, for the most part, on the major issues, reasonable.