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From: shawn@pnet51.cts.com (Shawn Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: System Disk
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Date: 12 Sep 88 20:05:08 GMT
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oliver@thelink.UUCP (Joel Sumner) writes:
>If indeed the System Disk 3.2 does contain toolset fixes, it should be freely
>distributed along with all of the other toolsets that are supposed to come
>with the computer.. Now if they want to package new versions of ProDos and
>the Finder with it, that is fine.. I see no really reason why Apple should be
>obligated to give us that.. (I hate to use this comparison but I will)..
>MS-DOS upgrades are hardly free so we should consider ourselves lucky to get
>updates like that...
>
>	Now.. There is one bit of history that I may have just  misunderstood
>but if I recall, a national magazine (A+ I think) said 'If you want the most
>recent version of the MAC Finder, just take a blank disk to a computer store
>and get it from them' [not verbatim.. just the general idea of it].. Now that
>the Mac System is up to version 6.2 or whatever.. Are they still giving all
>of those free updates? Did they ever? If so, I think this is another one of
>those 'Apple only Cares about the MAC' flames.. If I am wrong, please inform
>me (not flame me).

I agree.  We should be entitled to such bug fixes.  It doesn't take much
effort on Apple's part to supply the dealer with a disk which we can then copy
onto our system disks when we take them in, which has been the case for
previous updates of the Apple IIgs system disk.  A $18 cost through APDA
merely moves the effort into the APDA's hands, and they MUST charge or lose
money by giving it out free (mailing costs, even if you send in your own disk,
and copying time, etc.).  It's MUCH better for us to get the update from the
computer dealer, since they don't ever seem to mind, and in fact are quite
helpful (in my experience) in that area.

One possibility is that with the documentation update (which they would have
to charge for or lose money, a la APDA [time and materials]) they could not go
through the dealer.  I could see this as being the cause.  They may think the
documentation important enough to refuse to distribute the disk without it.  I
have NO idea what the actual chances of that are... :-)

I don't think they're supporting the Mac upgrades better than the Apple IIgs
upgrades, though.  As I said, in the past it's always been free.  However,
when the MultiFinder came out, that had to be purchased separately.  But
that's a different issue...

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