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From: dharvey@wsccs.UUCP (David Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: ][gs+
Summary: If you want something faster...buy it!
Message-ID: <646@wsccs.UUCP>
Date: 13 Sep 88 20:34:33 GMT
References: <8809030036.AA17658@crash.cts.com>
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In article <8809030036.AA17658@crash.cts.com>, gregp@pro-carolina.cts.COM (Greg Prevost) writes:
> 
> How long are we (the lowly ][ users) going to have to put up with this (put
> appropriate expletitive here) from Big Red?  I am begining to hate the Mac as
> much as the IBM!  We built this company to where it is now and they
> steadfastly continue to ignore us and what WE want.  We can't get a decent
> upgrade of a slow computer till they do that for the Macs first.  I remember
> what I thought when I first saw the GS.  Its nice, its pretty, sounds pretty
> good (but my Alpine sounds better) but was slow as a turtle.  That is why I
> haven't bought one, and that is why I won't buy one until I feel it is a
> worthwhile purchase.  And at this rate my next computer probably will not be a
> product made by Apple since I don't like Macs and I can get a much better game
> machine with a Amiga or a ST (that is all Big Red seems to think we should use
> the ][s for anymore) and a lot cheaper.  And most of the ][ people I know feel
> the same way.  All Apple continues to do is lose its devoted user base.  I am
> still devoted to my ][e enhanced but eventually decent software will stop
> coming out for it and I will make a change and unless Apple makes a change in
> its policy of screw the ][ it will not be to an Apple product.

BIG FLAME ON!

Apple Co. devoted user base is a majority of Macintosh machines by a
long shot.  What do you expect them to do?  Build their own special
purpose CPU that runs 8/16 bit software like a special purpose 32/32
bit (80386 Intel or 68030 Motorola) machine?  I have news for you, it
can't be done!  8 bits is 8 bits is.......  You can only shove so much
through a CPU like a 6502 (et al) that has a 16 bit instruction set.
And since you insist on running this 8/16 bit software there is very
little that Apple or anyone else can do about it.  Also be aware that
the Amiga has its own complement of extra processors to speed things
up considerably, even to the point that the keyboard has the equivalent
of the Apple IIe's CPU in it.  And that is just the keyboard!
Sure, the GS has its problems but people like you are expecting too much
from old outmoded technology!  It is exasperating.  And as to Apple's
support for Apple II owners go, it is probably the best they can do to
give you the GS.  Hells bells, don't expect them to work miracles!  Lest
you think I am connected with Apple Co. in any way I must add that my
present machine is an Amiga 1000, and yes I wasn't all that impressed
with the 2000.  But I believe that Apple has done a good job of
engineering some very sound products.  The problem is that people like
you want to live in the past!  If you don't like the Macintosh (I like
it and the II for that matter) then by all means stop your bitchin.
Just plunk your cash down on the machine of your choice.  I did and so
can you!  But by all means stop all of this loyalty to a company BS!
If the company doesn't deliver what you want, shop elsewhere, and don't
be surprised to find that you inherit a whole raft of other problems.
An example would be Commodore not polling their A1000 owners to discover
the vast majority want a machine with a 6802(3)0, more colors, better
resolution without interlace mode.  So what do they produce?  The same
machine with slots for IBM processors!  Egads!  We have to turn to
other vendors to give us these goodies that we REALLY wanted.  Do you
get the picture now?  Companies listen to only one thing, cold hard
cash!  So let your money do the talking, the company is bound to
listen then.

flame off

dharvey@wsccs