Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!brown
From: brown@nicmad.UUCP (Mr. Video)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Access to extended memory as expanded memory
Keywords: expanded, extended, 386, Windows
Message-ID: <3136@nicmad.UUCP>
Date: 7 Sep 88 15:51:35 GMT
References: <5791@ut-emx.UUCP>
Reply-To: brown@nicmad.UUCP (Mr. Video)
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In article <5791@ut-emx.UUCP> xdaa374@ut-emx.UUCP (William T. Douglass) writes:
<I have just received an Everex 20MHz '386, w/ 4MB ram.  The OS
<is MS-DOS 3.3, running Windows/386.  One of the main applications
<we would like to run is Excel, but as configured, Windows is unable
<to do anything with the 3 meg of extended memory in the system (other
<than as a ramdisk.)

Whoa!  This ain't true.  Windows/386 does its own management of the extended
memory and will NOT work, or allow, expanded memory managers to be installed.

Do this little test:

Remove any Ram disk programs from CONFIG.SYS.  This will leave all of your
memory free.  Bring up Windows/386.  Bring down the file menu and look at the
ABOUT option.  When it comes up, you will see the amount of memory that
Windows/386 thinks that it has left.  It should be somewhere around 3 MB.

If not, then Windows/386 isn't seeing the other 3 MB of extended memory.
If it isn't seeing it, are you sure that it is extended memory and not
expanded memory.  Windows/386 cannot use expanded memory at all.
If it is indeed extended memory (stuff addressed above 1MB) and not
expanded memory (the LIM 3.4/4.0 memory), then Windows/386 is not compatible
with that machine.  I seriously doubt that Windows/386 is incompatible.

<The documentation for Windows and Excel indicate nothing about the
<use of extended memory as expanded memory.  I am looking for a driver,
<perhaps, that can simulate the LIM 3.4 specs using the extended memory
<in this Everex box.  Can anybody help me (answers, pointers, etc?)

The following pages discuss memory:

Using Microsoft Windows/386
	Page 2, 6 and 25

Questions and Answers (version 2.10 only)
	Pages 3-6

I hope this helps a little bit.  I do not know how much memory is allocated
to Excel when it is started.  You can check this by looking at the ABOUT
box before and after starting Excel.
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