Xref: utzoo comp.lang.c:12470 comp.lang.c++:1551 comp.lang.misc:1834 comp.sys.ibm.pc:18963 comp.sys.apple:7383 comp.sys.mac:20172 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!oliveb!intelca!mipos3!omepd!pcm From: pcm@iwarpj.intel.com (Phil C. Miller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Allen Holub on DDJ & C-Chest Keywords: DDJ, C-Chest, final editorial. Message-ID: <3792@omepd> Date: 10 Sep 88 01:00:19 GMT References: <22873@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: news@omepd Reply-To: pcm@iwarpj.UUCP (Phil C. Miller) Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro Lines: 35 In article <22873@amdcad.AMD.COM>, indra@amdcad.AMD.COM (Indra Singhal) includes an editorial written by Allen Holub regarding his abrupt dismissal from Dr. Dobbs Journal of Software Tools. Allen's comments are, by his own admission, somewhat bitter. On the other hand, Allen makes some very valid criticisms of DDJoST. I feel compelled to comment in a similar manner. I have been a reader of Doctor Dobbs Journal for a long, long time, since the time when the magazine was all black and white and had things like Basic interpreters written in 8080 assembler. I remember when I first discovered DDJ and excitedly scrounged around in Byte shops in any major cities I visited, searching for back issues. I also remember when DDJ dropped the "Orthodontia" stuff and went to color covers. I also remember the editorial statement "don't worry though, we won't become just another glossy applications-oriented periodical", a snide reference to the metamorphasis of Byte magazine. Bullshit. Like Byte, DDJ *used* to print articles with a high level of technical content, with an emphasis on hobbyists and experimenters. I used to subscribe to Byte and DDJ, but I now subscribe to magazines which have filled the gap left by these two glossy applications-oriented periodicals. Allen Holub: >In fact, you may have noticed that the percentage of DDJ that's devoted >to advertisements has been getting larger and larger. You're goddamn right I have. I'm sorry that Allen got the shaft from DDJ. I hope he will come in contact with another magazine and continue to publish his fine articles. Phil Miller My vitriolic comments are not representative of my employer's opinions.