Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!cornell!batcomputer!sunny3.che.clarkson.edu!kweeder From: kweeder@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Jim Kweeder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: The Death of Apple Computer (Was: Apple Gets Greedier) Summary: Opportunity knocks but once. Keywords: Apple, Mac, Prices, Rip-off Message-ID: <1356@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu> Date: 14 Sep 88 14:20:19 GMT References: <70@bridge2.3Com.Com> and others Reply-To: kweeder@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Jim Kweeder) Distribution: na Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY Lines: 73 In article <70@bridge2.3Com.com> ngg@bridge2.3Com.com (Norman Goodger) writes: ============================================================================= Not that I want to pick on Norm in particular, but I had to reference somebody: ============================================================================= >The Boo-hiss should perhaps come on the products that seem to have no real >reason to be increased. But on CPU's Apple is justified, did they go to high? >Perhaps on some systems, like the Mac II, but also from what I hear and read >Apple cannot meet the demand of the Mac II sales, so does this justify raising >prices? Perhaps it does, it will allow a cooling off period so that supply >can meet demand until new CPU's are released probably sometime next year >hopefully after dram prices have normalized. So that they will be priced >competatively. And then price reductions on the Mac II will be pretty good >one might hope. While I can't disagree with the facts, I think Apple's thinking is strictly short sighted. Apple is in the position of having made two mistakes: (1) Going with an outside supplier for their memory (2) Having underestimated the market demand for their product. I won't say they should have avoided the first one (since Apple isn't alone in making this mistake), but they seem to have missed the mark on the second one pretty badly. Now that we HAVE the situation, the question is who should pay for it? Answer: all of us. However, that's not the view Apple has taken. Yes, the shortage of Mac II's does dictate a price increase and again yes Apple is going to need some cash to get those two memory plants on-line, but why dump the whole bill on the customer? A $1,000 increase on Mac II CPU's? Come on, I can BUY a PC SYSTEM (albeit a cheap 8088 machine) for that amount of money. In view of the two strategic blunders, Apple should bite the bullet and go into the red a little bit (or at least take a drastic reduction in profit). No company should expect a rosey profit picture in a year they need to build three major production facilities to continue their business. However, if you're an Apple stockholder, I wouldn't worry about that, yet. Apple's raising prices pretty much across the line indicates what they're trying to accomplish. Can they get away with it? Well yes and no. Yes in that people are perfectly right in that Apple is free to charge whatever they like and we're free to take our business elsewhere. I can't argue with that, but that's short sighted thinking. The "phrase of the day" is: pay me now or pay me later. Apple (wittingly or not) has choosen to pay later and pay they will. It's no mystery why more Macs don't adorn the desks of corporate America. With their current move, they're insuring that more of these desks will get IBM/Compaq/Tandy machines. Worse, more Macs won't be adorning the desks at home and people will then want an IBM machine at work. And look at Apple's position: for the first time, they're making signigicant inroads into the business market. The reason is the unique advantage the Mac Interface offers for graphics and desk top publishing. But, the IBM machines are getting this ability. Right now, it isn't as good as the Mac system, but Apple is handing them the time to get it right. So, should Apple increase it's prices? Well, yes. Demand is up, the whole industry is experiencing upward price pressure, etc. However, now isn't the time for *safe* thinking. Apple has the opportunity they've always wanted and they should strike while the iron is hot. If Apple wants to expand and succeed, they need to speculate with more plants and products. This means producing Macs 140 hours a week, savagely buying all the memory they can lay their hands on, taking a plunge into the bank for the capital to build those plants, and grimly holding the line on prices, yielding increases only when necessary. Increasing the price to what the market can bear will produce the advertised result: demand will go down. However, this demand may go away and never return. What I'm advocating certainly isn't safe or appealing, but no one is going to topple the MS-DOS world by wielding a pillow and Apple's chances will probably never be this good again. That's my two cents, Jim Kweeder kweeder@sun.soe.clarkson.edu