Xref: utzoo comp.lang.c:12687 comp.lang.c++:1627 comp.lang.misc:1893 comp.sys.ibm.pc:19283 comp.sys.apple:7519 comp.sys.mac:20468 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!killer!elg From: elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Allen Holub on DDJ & C-Chest (long) Keywords: DDJ, C-Chest, magazines Message-ID: <5550@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> Date: 17 Sep 88 18:12:21 GMT References: <22873@amdcad.AMD.COM> <14047@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <75@unet.pacbell.COM> Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 48 Distribution: Summary: Expires: Sender: Reply-To: Followup-To: In message <75@unet.pacbell.COM>, childers@unet.pacbell.COM (Richard Childers) says: >In article <14047@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> dean@violet.berkeley.edu (Dean Pentcheff) writes: > >>Let's face it: programmers (especially non-full-time ones) don't rate >>squat with advertisers. > . >>Unfortunately, I don't see much of a way around this problem. Suggestions, >>anyone? > >Well, the costs of printing and distributing could be cut sharply by making >it entirely BBS-based and placing its contents in the public domain after, >say, one month, at which point in time the material is considered dated and >commercially useless. Problem #1: Advertising. As I'm sure you know, the majority of the cost of a magazine is paid by advertising. Thus, while it costs about the same to create and ship a floppy-based magazine as it does a paper-based magazine, advertisers don't appreciate not having their glossies in there, and stay away in droves. That makes it hard to pay authors, which makes it hard to gather worthwhile material (how many people will, UNPAID, put out detailed, well-written articles? USENET is perfect proof of the converse :-). This also makes it hard to sell subscriptions for any reasonable price, which simply brings up point #2, DISTRIBUTION. Even if we find some way of, say, digitizing the advertiser's glossies, distribution is a problem. Disks are expensive, especially if we have lots of digitized pictures = lots of disks. A BBS is no answer, because it costs most people more to get info from a BBS than it would from U.S. Mail & floppy disks (old aphorism: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a pickup truck full of 9-track tape!). Not to mention that these pictures would be LARGE.... even a 640x400 in 16 colors takes up some 128K. A number of these would make the daily volume of USENET look trivial. Thus, I doubt that it will be feasible anytime soon to create an on-line or disk-based magazine with any success (note that copying is no problem, if it's advertiser-based -- advertisers love having their advertisements spread as far and wide as possible). "soon" == any time before the installation of high-speed digital communications serving the majority of computer owners (i.e. ISDN & competitors). -- Eric Lee Green ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 MISFORTUNE, n. The kind of fortune that never misses.