Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!agate!ig!uwmcsd1!nic.MR.NET!eta!pwcs!ems!srcsip!mnkonar From: mnkonar@srcsip.UUCP (Murat N. Konar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: CDEF's and Control Manager Summary: Because... Message-ID: <8648@srcsip.UUCP> Date: 14 Sep 88 21:12:19 GMT References: <8486@srcsip.UUCP> <3650@Portia.Stanford.EDU> Reply-To: mnkonar@ely.UUCP (Murat N. Konar) Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Camden, MN Lines: 22 Doug Felt writes: >The only reason I can see for writing your own CDEF is to replace one >of the existing CDEF's with your own, in order to make cute hacks to >other people's applications. (etc)... It is indeed my wish to make "cute hacks" to other peoples applications. I am trying to implement a variation of Apple's scroll bars. So far I have a scroll bar that does everything Apple's does, but I want to go further. Just doing the scroll bar takes you way past the articles in MacTutor as far as a complete CDEF that makes use of ALL messages. I have learned an awful lot about CDEFs in the process (no surprise), though most of what I learned was by trial and error and NOT from "Inside Macintosh" (no surprise here either, I guess, but we should expect better). As I posted previously, there is only the scantest information out there on the intricacies of CDEFs so if anyone can help me out I'd really appreciate it. Let's break this conspiracy of silence. _____________________________________________________________ Have a day. :'| Murat N. Konar