Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!ucbvax!MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA!jrv%sdimax2 From: jrv%sdimax2@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith.z100 Subject: Re: Banning ARC files. Message-ID: <8809161727.AA17804@sdimax2.menet> Date: 16 Sep 88 17:27:11 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 82 My personal preference would be to get the SEA vs PK court decision reversed. The SIMTEL-20 archives may be fixable by standalone programs running in the background, but there are .ARC files on millions of floppy disks, too. Converting them requires manual operations. If we must change formats, I think we should think about potential improvements. I would suggest improving the archive itself by: Including a printable character mode. There are still a lot of seven bit wide communications channels. It would certainly help if there was a compressed format that did not require an eight bit wide path. Storing full pathnames in addition to file names. This would make an archive a better backup format. The unpacking program should be able to use or ignore the pathname. Allowing longer file names. MS-DOS (and OS/2?) restrict names to 8+3 characters, but UNIX names can be longer. Including a DES encryption option. I would also suggest improving the pack/unpack program: I'd like a program that treats an archive exactly like a subdirectory. Starting the program would "open" the archive. It would then accept the standard DOS commands DIR, TYPE, and COPY, except that references to "current directory" would be interpreted as "this archive", and references to "parent of this directory" would be interpreted as "the directory containing this archive". Full pathnames would be treated as usual. For example, UNPAK alpha starts the program and "opens" alpha.pak (or whatever extension is chosen) DIR lists names and characteristics of files in the archive DIR *.c lists names and characteristics of .C files in the archive DIR ..\*.bat lists names and characteristics of .BAT files in the directory containing the archive COPY ..\*.c adds to the archive all the .C files in the directory containing the archive COPY *.doc .. unpacks the .DOC files and puts them in the same directory as the archive COPY *.com \bin unpacks the .COM files and puts them in subdirectory \bin on the current drive TYPE foo.bar unpacks the indicated file and displays it on the screen BYE closes the archive and terminates the program Essentially, I'm trying to avoid continually retyping the name of the program and the name of the archive. It would also be nice to be able to copy files from one archive into a second without unpacking in the middle. There's probably a market for a full-screen point-and-click type user interface too, but that should be a second program. The primary program should be restricted to a TTY interface so it's portable. I think now's the time to comment on these suggestions and bring up others so the next archive will be not only different but BETTER. - Jim Van Zandt ... ...-....1200 N81N ............