Xref: utzoo news.software.b:1623 news.sysadmin:957 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu!karl From: karl@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu (Karl Kleinpaste) Newsgroups: news.software.b,news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Alzheimer's Syndrome Message-ID: <21942@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 17 Sep 88 03:17:11 GMT References: <576@mbph.UUCP> <406@amyerg.UUCP> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Lines: 24 In-reply-to: appleton@amyerg.UUCP's message of 16 Sep 88 19:23:05 GMT appleton@amyerg.uucp writes: In Mr. Hybl's article, he mentions his /usr4 file system losing it's "memory" and suddenly running out of inodes. I have been encountering the same problem with my /usr system. I have a 3b2/300, am running news 2.11 patchlevel 14, and take a full newsfeed. This problem was discussed quite some time back (a year?), and the result was... ...it's a bug in the SysV filesystem. There is a fencepost error in the inode caching of the SysV filesystem code, where a large number of deletions (such as during expire(8)) can cause the kernel to mess up its concept of inode availability. A fix was offered for those sites with source, but the very great bulk of sites out there can't put it to use, of course, lacking exactly that very important resource. The alternatives with which one is stuck are either [a] keep your news on a large filesystem with MANY more inodes available than you will ever use, or [b] periodically (weekly? twice weekly?) unmount the filesystem on which news lives and run fsck against it, which will always notice the bad inode count and fix it. --Karl