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From: rayan@ai.toronto.edu (Rayan Zachariassen)
Newsgroups: ont.uucp
Subject: Re: Why is utai not updating paths?
Message-ID: <88Sep17.004459edt.880@neat.ai.toronto.edu>
Date: 17 Sep 88 07:24:51 GMT
Distribution: ont
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
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In article <3226@geac.UUCP> david@geac.UUCP (David Haynes) writes:
# Can anyone at utai please tell me why the paths data files have not
# been updated for quite a while? I have posted a new site entry and
# a friend has posted updates to his map entry and none of these have
# appeared in a new map posting. 
# 
# This makes it very frustrating when your main mail node is unknown
# to most of the net (even though you did register your site with
# what you thought was sufficient lead time).

The u.can.on.1 file that was just posted (finally!) from rutgers, and
a few days earlier from here, has an entry for ``murder'' dated Aug. 29th.
the file itself was generated on Sept. 11th and contains all updates
received by then.  What are you talking about?

"Sufficient lead time" is a relative concept.  Before Usenix (and the
last^N Telebit offer deadline) I was very careful to send in new maps
to Rutgers.  During Usenix I asked Mel Pleasant if those maps had gone
out, and he said "Oh yes, they did.".  I find out later it was the
previous month's maps he had just then sent out.  So I send in new
updates and they disappear.  So then Mel goes on holidays and things
break.  So all of a sudden utai can't connect to rutgers to drop off
the maps.  This goes on for a few weeks until I get ahold of Mel's
vacation replacement.  He's busy and doesn't get around to looking at
the problem for another couple of weeks, after I've sent him 3 pleading
messages.  He eventually gives up and asks me to mail the maps to him,
which I did last Sunday.  Finally the last map file shows up here
today.  It is a very speedy process, as you can tell.  Our connection
to rutgers is still broken.  Grumble :-(

If you or anyone else is sending mail through UofT, using us as autorouters,
there is no guarantee the latest routing data will be used (there are 2
route databases on the network, one of which is updated more irregularly
than the other).

I usually make new maps every couple of weeks.  Whether or not they make
it to Rutgers is a completely different issue, alas.  Now that Mel is back,
maybe things will get fixed.

rayan