Path: utzoo!attcan!lsuc!ncrcan!ontenv!soley
From: soley@ontenv.UUCP (Norman S. Soley)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: More carping about AT&T
Keywords: maps
Message-ID: <822@ontenv.UUCP>
Date: 27 Sep 88 16:54:35 GMT
Organization: Ontario Ministry of the Environment, Toronto
Lines: 80

We all know AT&T is out of the third party e-mail game, we've known it
was coming for some time, I thought my paths file knew all about it. I
was wrong. 

The other day I got some bounced mail from AT&T with a polite note
telling me what I already knew about att and third party mail. So I
says to myself, self, what gives? The bounced mail was on its way to
ddsw1 so I do this:

uuhosts ddsw1

UUCP mail path from ontenv to ddsw1:
ddsw1	ontmoh!utgpu!att!ddsw1!%s	200

UUCP mail information for host ddsw1 (#USENET lines show USENET news links):

Yup, there it is a path through att, but no map entry Hmm... 
Yet see what this yields:

uuhosts att

UUCP mail path from ontenv to att:
att	ontmoh!utgpu!att!%s	200
att.att.com	ontmoh!utgpu!att!%s	200

UUCP mail information for host att (#USENET lines show USENET news links):
#Name			.att.com, att
#F	arpa.att.com
#Organization		AT&T
#Contact		Mark Horton, Tim Thompson, Doug Price, Jonathan Clark
#Electronic-Address	mark@att.att.com, tgt@att.att.com, dhp@att.att.com, jhc@att.att.com
#Telephone		614-860-4276, 614-860-7026, 312-979-3664, 201-957-2586
#Postal-Address		Rm 1D-119, 6200 E. Broad, Columbus, OH 43213
#Latitude-Longitude	39 58 54 N / 82 50 15 W
#Remarks		registered
#Remarks		also on ARPANET and CSNET
#USENET	akgua alberta andante bakerst barak cbnews chinet clyde codas cuuxb
#USENET	cvpath dxis ethos gargoyle genesis gladys godfre ho95e holin homxb
#USENET	hropus icus ihnews ihnp4 inuxc kitty ky2d-2 laidbak left lzaz lznh
#USENET	lznv lzsc lzss mhuxu mtund mtune mtunf mtung mtunh mtuni mtunj mtunk
#USENET	mtunn mtuxo ncsc1 nitro occrsh osu-cis oucsace pacbell petsd rutgers
#USENET	sandoz sfsup starcube tellab5 ttrdc twitch u1100a ucbvax ulysses
#USENET	uniq westmark whuts
#Written-by		tgt@att.att.com (Tim Thompson) ; Mon Sep 12 15:26:40 EDT 1988
[This map is more recent than the third party embargo start on Sept 1]
#
# Formal gateways being instituted for the whole of .ATT.COM
# Further changes will follow throughout the next year.
#
att	.att.com
att=	att.att.com
#
#
#
# This list of externally connected machines will be very volatile over
# the next couple of months as AT&T gets out of the 3rd-party e-mail business.
#
#
att	<acad>(HOURLY), <acich>(HOURLY), <aecom>(HOURLY), 
	<agsnjt>(HOURLY), <aicchi>(HOURLY), <alberta>(HOURLY),
	<amdahl>(HOURLY), <amdcad>(HOURLY), <anvil>(HOURLY),
	<arizona>(HOURLY), <atteur>(HOURLY), <auxnj>(HOURLY),
	<bakerst>(HOURLY), <bang>(HOURLY), <banjo>(HOURLY),
	<base16>(HOURLY), <bcr>(HOURLY), <bellcore>(HOURLY),
	<bpa>(HOURLY), <bradley>(HOURLY), <cfg>(HOURLY),
	<chinet>(HOURLY), <csdev>(HOURLY), <csun>(HOURLY),
	<cvpath>(HOURLY), <cwjcc>(HOURLY), <david>(HOURLY),
	<ddsw1>(HOURLY), <decuac>(HOURLY), <decwrl>(HOURLY),
	<delftcc>(HOURLY), <edgesa>(HOURLY), <ethos>(HOURLY),


	...And so on...

Her comes the kicker. AT&T is already bouncing through-bound mail yet
their map still shows terminal connections to about 100 outside
systems. Any comments Mark/Tim/Et Al?
-- 
Norman Soley - Data Communications Analyst - Ontario Ministry of the Environment
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