Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Intelligence / Consciousness Test for Machines (Neural-Nets)??? Message-ID: <2471@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 6 Oct 88 12:06:26 GMT References: <1141@usfvax2.EDU> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 15 From article <1141@usfvax2.EDU>, by mician@usfvax2.EDU (Rudy Mician): " ... " When can a machine be considered a conscious entity? Always. It's a matter of respect and empathy on your part. All the machines I use are conscious. Or never, maybe, if you take 'conscious' seriously enough to entertain the possibility that you yourself are not conscious except sporadically. Whatever one may think of his overall thesis, Julian Jaynes (The Origin of Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind) is very persuasive when he argues that consciousness is not required for use of human language or every-day human activities. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu