Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!esosun!jackson From: jackson@esosun.UUCP (Jerry Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Intelligence / Consciousness Test for Machines (Neural-Nets)??? Message-ID: <263@balder.esosun.UUCP> Date: 6 Oct 88 23:58:51 GMT References: <1141@usfvax2.EDU> <40680@linus.UUCP> Organization: SAIC, San Diego Lines: 28 In-reply-to: bwk@mitre-bedford.ARPA's message of 5 Oct 88 20:24:56 GMT In article <40680@linus.UUCP> bwk@mitre-bedford.ARPA (Barry W. Kort) writes: In article <1141@usfvax2.EDU> mician@usfvax2.usf.edu.UUCP, (Rudy Mician) asks: > >When can a machine be considered a conscious entity? > A normal person who is asleep is usually regarded as unconscious, > as is a person in a coma. An alert Dalmation may be considered > conscious. A person who is in a coma is unconscious because he is incapable of experiencing the outside world. Consciousness is a *subjective* phenomenon. It is truly not even possible to determine if your neighbor is conscious. If a person felt no pain and experienced no colors, sounds, thoughts, emotions, or tactile sensations he could be considered unconscious. Note that we would be unable to determine this. He could behave in exactly the same way while being completely inert/dead inside. Machines that are obviously unconscious such as feedback-controlled battleship guns and thermostats respond to their environments but, I would hardly call them conscious. It is hard to imagine what one would have to do to make a computer conscious, but it does seem that it would involve more than adding a few rules. --Jerry Jackson