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From: bbw842@leah.Albany.Edu (Barry B Werger)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Intelligence / Consciousness Test for Machines (Neural-Nets)???
Summary: But extending your example...
Message-ID: <1089@leah.Albany.Edu>
Date: 7 Oct 88 20:27:49 GMT
References: <1141@usfvax2.EDU> <1145@usfvax2.EDU>
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In article <1145@usfvax2.EDU>, pollock@usfvax2.EDU (Wayne Pollock) writes:
> than lets take an example, oh lets say.....autos (cars). On my way over here
> I was almost ran off the road BY WHO? The car or the driver?!? Who do I sue?
> The car or the driver? Who's insurance am I covered under? The caes or the
> driver's? You see your question isn't as simple as it seems. There are a lot
> of legal problems when or if you concider a machine conscious. So the next
> time I get in trouble I'll blame it on IBM you see because,,,,THE MACHINE MADE
> ME DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But think about NEW cars for a moment (Think about AUDIS!).
Look at the controversy...was unintended acceleration drivers fault, or car'
I suppose it was manufacturer's in this case. But if car computer fails, is it
driver's fault? With ABS, COmputer controled 4ws, computer controlled engines,
active suspension, if a car loses control can we really say it was the driver's
fault any more?

I think i know what you are saying, but your argument does not quite work.
Does ABS represent consciousness? Computerized engine management? the
computer is 'aware' of its environment, and acts accordingly. in some limited
sense, i'd call this consciousness.

Soon I'll learn to type,
Barry Werger