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From: mechjgh@tness7.UUCP (Greg Hackney )
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Elm will become a HP-UX standard
Message-ID: <9871@tness7.UUCP>
Date: 30 Sep 88 17:45:51 GMT
References: <1000004@hpycla.HP.COM> <9861@tness7.UUCP> <556@hptsug2.HP.COM>
Reply-To: mechjgh@tness7.UUCP (Greg Hackney (214+464-2771))
Organization: Southwestern Bell, Network Engineering, Dallas
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In article <556@hptsug2.HP.COM> taylor@limbo.ptp.hp.com (Dave Taylor) writes:

>	In my view we have an unprecedented
>	situation, where a large corporation is willing to go through
>	the significant effort involved in bringing the code up to
>	Hewlett-Packard Release Quality and THEN RELEASE THAT VERSION
>	OF THE SOURCE TO THE PUBLIC.
>	....I am concerned that the Usenet Community might
>	well let an unprecedented situation slip through their fingers
>	because of their own belief that the usenet version is superior.

A few of us were concerned that we have worked our tails off on reviving
the public version of Elm, and then get an article from someone we never
heard of which implies we aren't capable of doing a good job, and that they
can do much better, therefore are going to take it over.

Since that article, it has become know that this was a misunderstanding.
It first appeared as an HP attempt to regain total control of the
development and release of Elm (for whatever reasons). Now it appears
to be more an involvement to insure HP compatibility, and to assure
continuity of the Elm product.

>	because of their own belief that the usenet version is superior.

I realize that your posting was not addressing me personally,but...
Personally, I don't think or not think that the usenet
version is superior (not having seen the Japanese version). My personal
concern was that there will be no usenet version, just an HP.

I think the Elm Usenet group's position is that the group is in a better
position to deal with all the different equipment configurations than
HP, therefore should retain control of the public release.

>	have the HP people send a copy of their modifications to
>	the Usenet folks, and the Usenet people arrange for a very up-
>	to-date copy of their version of Elm to be transferred to HP
>	in Japan.

I believe this *is* is the current offering, and is being negotiated
by the two parties. If successful, there should be happiness in Elm land.
Fortunately, the Elm coordinator (Syd), if nothing else, is quite
diplomatic. :-)

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Greg Hackney
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