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From: tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: TCP-IP libraries for Macs and ATs
Message-ID: <5516@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: 3 Oct 88 18:48:25 GMT
References: <7219@well.UUCP> <5475@hoptoad.uucp> <1300@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Reply-To: tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney)
Organization: Eclectic Software, San Francisco
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In article <1300@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> sob@watson.bcm.tmc.edu (Stan Barber)
writes:
>Apple announced MacTCP this week at Interop 88. It is supposedly based
>on the NCSA kernel and not the UMich stuff (or something link that).

That makes four attributions of the source so far: UofM, Apple, NCSA, and
Ungermann-Bass.  My money is now riding on the last one.  But who knows?

>It is NOT an end-user package but for developers only. Stanford-IP has been
>modified to fit as has NCSA Telnet. UB has the first product out on it.

How nice.  In their usual TOPS-bashing, Apple didn't bother to make us aware
of it when I was there.  I always get a kick out of it when Apple talks about
their wonderful support of third-party developers.

>Kinetics has also release a similiar product called TCPport. TOPS has not
>released anything like this, period. 
>Do you know if TOPS will, Tim?

Probably not; the TOPS developer program is a joke.  I have two fine pieces of
software, InterBase and TOPS TCP/IP, which would be perfect for it, but no
one has ever licensed them because the marketing boys at TOPS don't think
beta testing or the developer program are worth a full-time employee.  Grumble
grr hiss boo.  But TOPS TCP/IP stabilized last year, and had the last known
bug removed in the spring; it ought to be available now.  Maybe you could get
it if you asked.

What was that I said earlier about not wanting to appear mean-spirited toward
my former employer?  Oh well....
-- 
Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim
"Now hear a plain fact: Swedenborg has not written one new truth: Now hear
  another: he has written all the old falshoods.
 And now hear the reason.  He conversed with Angels who are all religious, &
  conversed not with Devils who all hate religion, for he was incapable
  thro' his conceited notions."
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