Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!vsi1!altnet!uunet!mcvax!enea!sommar From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Cynic's Guide to SE #6: Forthcoming Revolt Message-ID: <3969@enea.se> Date: 1 Oct 88 22:40:13 GMT Organization: ENEA DATA AB, Sweden Lines: 36 One thing is for sure: A PC, Macintosh or an Amiga can *look* much more impressive than the old traditional monochrome screen connected to VAX or similar. But you use them for different purposes, and if we are talking software engineering, these boring glass screens win. Admittedly I have very little experience of PC software and none of Mac or Amiga. No doubt you have better and nicer *application* software available on these machines like tools for doing slides and documentation. And since documentaion is a an important thing, this means these machines can be of good help for that part of the work. And, at the place I currently located, they have both VAXes and Macintoshes. But for program development? Can these small machines give the same support for large-scale projects? I saw a demonstration of the debugger for Turbo-Pascal, and I wasn't too impressed. Nice graphics, but it didn't seem to do better than the VMS debugger. Source-code control? Make? I think that the conclusion that the computer at home does better than the one at work is little of a short-cut. You are looking too much at the surface. For mangagers and other people who mainly use application programs, the PC is a winner, but for a software engineer? A final comparison. For a while we had fun with the PC game "Leisure Larry in the Land of Lounge Lizards". Nice graphics, true, but the game as such became uninteresting since once you solved it, there were no variations. On the other hand, I still like from time to time playing nethack on this Unix machine. Simple ASCII for graphics, not fancy at all, but the game as such has much more to offer than Larry. -- Erland Sommarskog ENEA Data, Stockholm sommar@enea.UUCP