Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!rutgers!cbmvax!heimat!sneakers
From: sneakers@heimat.UUCP (Dan "Sneakers" Schein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Ultrix
Message-ID: <3418.AA3418@heimat>
Date: 28 Sep 88 03:20:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga
Organization: Sneakers Computing
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In Message <4228@louie.udel.EDU>, rsine@nswc-wo.arpa wrote:

>In one of the messages (I deleted the message ID) Dan "Sneakers" Schein
>writes:
>> I use mine to connect with Ultrix 2.2 on a daily basis. Ultrix is lisenced
>> from Berkley but im not sure how close (or far) BSD 4.3 and Ultrix 2.2 may be.
>> wpl@burdvax has been keeping records of the success & failures on using Amiga
>> UUCP.
>
>Dan, perhaps you used a bad choice of words (i.e. licensed from Berkley), or
>you are mistaken.  When I worked for DEC they came out with a product called
>Ultrix and that was their version of Unix.  They (DEC not Berkley) license
>that product.  I am not a Unix person (VMS is my OS of choice), but I did 
>work with and know some of the Ultrix people and according to them Ultrix is
>Unix and more.  Now, how close that is to BSD 4.3 I don't really know without
>asking them (which I could do).  I know I'm making a moot point but, I just 
>don't want anyone to get confused.
> 

Then in Message <10290@s.ms.uky.edu>, david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae) wrote:

>I don't know what this has to do with Amiga's, but this is where I
>saw the question ...
>
>Anyway.  Ultrix is originally derived from 4.2BSD.  In order to get
>the Ultrix sources you have to have Berkeley liscense.  But DEC has
>changed a bunch of stuff around, apparently because they simply felt
>like changing stuff around (to lock in customers?), but retained source
>code compatibility with BSD.  (NNTP, News, rn, MMDF, UUCP and some others
>just compiled and installed w/o hassle on Ultrix when we switched
>over from MtXinu's 4.3BSD -- and don't tell me it's a step backwards).
>
>V3.0 of Ultrix is supposed to be 4.3BSD compatible.  I sure hope so!
>
>There are also compatibility stuff in there to make the system SVID
>compliant.  This started with some stuff developed by Doug Gwyn
>of the Ballistics Research Laboratory.  But again, DEC's Ultrix group
>put a lot of effort into the project...

  I didn't mean to confuse anyone (heck im confused enough for 3 people :-)
  with my refrence to Ultrix & Berkeley Unix. Im not a Ultrix guru by any
  means - just 'joe user' and from my experience Ultrix is as close to BSD
  that it comes without being real Berkeley. Thats the only fact(?) I based
  my original comments on. Sorry if I confused anyone and thank for helping
  to un-tie the Sneakers. (Pun intended - but the thanx are serious)


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