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From: dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: The ultimate fix!!!
Message-ID: <8810081911.AA17305@cory.Berkeley.EDU>
Date: 8 Oct 88 19:11:50 GMT
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karl@sugar.uu.net (Karl Lehenbauer) Writes:
:Damage from a virus/trojan/etc could be significantly reduced on a Unix system
:by running new programs from a special signon that doesn't own anything 
:important that could be lost.

	Excuse me, bullshit.  I wish people would drop this "virus's can be
stopped" crap, it just isn't possible.  The whole thing can be characterized by
a single statement:

	"Convenience Vs. Security"

	Understand the point?  The more convenient one makes a system, the
more security holes one puts in it.  For example, search paths.  Another
example (UNIX): .rhosts,  A third example: remote logins.  If you start
removing conveniences to give a machine more protection, users will stop
using your machine.  It is as simple as that.

	STOP TRYING to argue with those of us who provide 'examples', please.
We are only showing the uninformed the tip of iceburg with such examples.
In real-life, there are as many ways to write a virus as there are bytes of
memory in your favorite machine.

    ** This is the end of my involvement with this line of discussion **

					-Matt