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From: karl@sugar.uu.net (Karl Lehenbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: The ultimate fix!!!
Message-ID: <2791@sugar.uu.net>
Date: 11 Oct 88 22:48:02 GMT
References: <8810092209.AA09182@cory.Berkeley.EDU>
Organization: Sugar Land Unix - Houston, TX
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I wrote:
>Damage from a virus/trojan/etc could be significantly reduced on a Unix system
>by running new programs from a special signon that doesn't own anything 
>important that could be lost.

Matt Dillon wrote:
> Excuse me, bullshit.  I wish people would drop this "virus's can be
> stopped" crap, it just isn't possible.  The whole thing can be ...

...and to clarify...

Matt <8810092209.AA09182@cory.Berkeley.EDU>
> 	Well, let me qualify that:
> 
> 	(1) The first bullshit remark was in direct reply to you

The "bullshit," especially twice, is *really* offensive and I'm finding it hard
not to yell.  What is "bullshit" about my statement?  I *never* claimed virii
could be guaranteeably stopped.  I *do* think we should do what we can to keep 
our systems from getting infected and practice good "damage control" when they
do.  Do you disagree that Unix systems are better protected than totally 
unprotected systems like the Amiga and the PC, are you saying that Unix is
somehow wide open such that running mischevious code from any signon means 
the system's hosed (and if so, how?), that people shouldn't even bother with 
countermeasures, or what?   Two context-free "bullshits" do not help to clarify
why I am wrong.
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