Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!uwmcsd1!marque!studsys!jetzer
From: jetzer@studsys.mu.edu (jetzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: //e RAM
Keywords: RAM,dead,ugh!
Message-ID: <251@studsys.mu.edu>
Date: 3 Oct 88 13:02:07 GMT
References: <849@koko.UUCP> <10468@reed.UUCP>
Organization: Marquette University - Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Lines: 35

In article <10468@reed.UUCP>, kamath@reed.UUCP (Sean Kamath) writes:
> In article <849@koko.UUCP> mantis@koko.UUCP (Mike Elness) writes:
> >Agh!  My trusty Apple //e (enhanced) is sick!  Upon invoking the self-test
> >with Ctrl-Solid Apple-Reset, I got the following message:

> >    RAM   0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0

> >So does this mean that the fifth RAM chip from the left is the bad one?  I
> >simply can't afford to take my //e to an authorized Apple technician and have
> >him put in a new motherboard.  Instead, I plan to have an electronics repair
> >place desolder the bad RAM chip and pop in a new one.
> >All I need to know is which RAM chip is dead.

> Let's here it for soldering in *RAM*.  Of all the boneheaded things to do.
> Are you *sure* the RAM is soldered in?  I really can't believe it!  Sheeesh.

Yes, enhanced //e's have soldered RAMs.

At work, we send our bad equipment out to a guy who is Apple trained, but is
not an authorized Apple technician as such.  He does stuff a lot cheaper, and
doesn't mark up the costs of replacement parts like the local dealer does (for
example, the ribbon advancement gear went bad on an Epson printer.  The local
dealer wanted $30; this other guy wanted $4.50).

At various times, we've had enhanced //e's go down with RAM problems.  Once
it came back with another RAM soldered right on top of it.  (One other time,
he unsoldered the RAM and put in a socket.)  He says he tests all of the RAM
to ensure that they arent's bad with the piggy-back technique.

So, if you're somewhat hesitant about unsoldering the RAM, try to piggy-back
it.

-- 
Mike Jetzer
"Hack first, ask questions later."