Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!mtuxo!mtgzy!mtgzz!drutx!dvac From: dvac@drutx.ATT.COM (Daniel Vachon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Streaming Protocols Summary: Streamers Message-ID: <8868@drutx.ATT.COM> Date: 4 Oct 88 16:33:34 GMT References: <8809251636.AA04554@crash.cts.com> <8605@smoke.ARPA> Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO Lines: 30 In article <8605@smoke.ARPA>, gwyn@smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) writes: > > However, there is one circumstance where this half-duplex mode of > operation (one direction at a time) does present a problem, and > that is with some "9600bps" modems that aren't really 9600bps when > operated as full-duplex (simultaneous transmission in both > directions).... > > There are several ways to set up protocols that make effective use > of such brain-damaged modems. Maybe brain damaged, but how much more do you gain out of FDX 9600? Most on-line sessions are half duplex anyways...As for data transfers, the only thing the slow speed channel need be used for is ACK's and NAK's...Why pay twice the price for those?! Just get a true streaming protocol... What it means is a protocol that has the ability to go back and re-transmit a specific block...So, while the sender is cranking out these blocks of data (1..2..3...4..5...etc...25..26), say the receiver didn't get a good block 24, so it sends a NAK-24, and the transmitter will re-transmit block 24... This of course requires some more elaborate headers and larger buffer space, but memory is cheaper than hardware too... So, if we are talking about hobbyist data transfers (of which I assume we are), most hobbyists would rather spend the money on a new computer or something instead of getting some over-priced full duplex 9600 baud monster... Thats why the USR HST is pretty much the only 9600 baud modem that Apple hobbyists use. Later - Dan Vachon - !ihnp4!drutx!dvac Disclaimer: These opinions are mine....who else would want em?!