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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Net.Porn ?
Keywords: porn, underage, lawsuit
Message-ID: <541@optilink.UUCP>
Date: 4 Oct 88 16:57:20 GMT
References: <1278@cbnews.ATT.COM> <509@optilink.UUCP> <1957@spdcc.COM> <1977@spdcc.COM>
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Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <1977@spdcc.COM>, dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes:
> In article <535@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >I'm really quite surprised -- especially considering how lawsuit crazy
> >certain lawyers are.  Consider the lawsuits about 976 services, and
> >tell me how unlikely it is that someone won't do the same when they
> >find little Johnny reading alt.sex or soc.motss.
> 
> If little Johnny wants to read soc.motss, he can do it on my system.
> Cramer still likes to maintain that soc.motss is "sexually oriented"
> and akin to either alt.sex or 976 services which it clearly isn't.  

Mr. Dyer seems to be confusing what I'm saying could happen, with what
I personally believe.  I want you to picture a jury in a small town in
the MidWest (or even California) when the plaintiff's attorney explains
that soc.motss is a place where homosexuals socialize and discuss 
aspects of being homosexual, and that SiteX BBS service provides
access to such by impressionable children.

> Any attempt to sue a site for accidentally or deliberately giving
> a minor access to soc.motss would be thrown out of court, and since
> the chances of such a suit being brought are infinitesimally less than
> the chance of Cramer's conversion to liberalism, I suggest that we
> put this ridiculous thread to bed.  Cramer may have the last word if
> he likes.
> 
> Steve Dyer

Thrown out of court -- sure -- but how many lawsuits does SiteX have
to respond to before they decide they can't afford to fight this
sort of issue?

What is it Mr. Dyer is upset about?  That I'm warning sites that
restricting access to some groups to adults might save them a lot of
aggravation or legal expense fighting lawsuits?  Or is it that 
important to Mr. Dyer that minors read soc.motss?
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer
..!ames!pyramid!kontron!optilin!cramer