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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Net.Porn ?
Keywords: porn, underage, lawsuit
Message-ID: <556@optilink.UUCP>
Date: 7 Oct 88 16:56:25 GMT
References: <1278@cbnews.ATT.COM> <509@optilink.UUCP> <1957@spdcc.COM> <15135@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>
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Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <15135@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, gsmith@garnet.berkeley.edu (Gene W. Smith) writes:
> In article <550@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >In article <15023@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, gsmith@garnet.berkeley.edu (Gene W. Smith) writes:
> 
> >I'm not concerned about soc.motss in particular -- alt.sex is likely
> >to cause the same problems.  Mr. Dyer took exception to my including
> >soc.motss in the same list.
> 
>   I read them occasionally, and just compared them, and he's dead
> right. alt.sex is just what it says it is; soc.motss has a lot of
> stuff like whether "monogamy" is The Answer or not, and includes
> political speech, which you say is "absolutely" protected.

Political speech is "absolutely" protected -- but if you distributed
child pornography with a political speech in it, the overall publication
would not be legal.  (Depending on the mood of the judge hearing the
case on a particular day).

>   In any case, my point is that something a parent might object
> to could turn up *anywhere*, and that the free speech rights of
> soc.motssers are as important as those of Clayton Cramers.  (It
> *is*, after all, a political issue these days--or had you
> noticed?)  I think any "warning" should be generic, covering the
> whole net and without singling out soc.motss. If you *must* pick
> on a group, try alt.sex and alt.drugs.
> --
> ucbvax!garnet!gsmith     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720

I didn't pick on soc.motss -- it was one of several groups I mentioned
that raise the potential for legal nuisances.  Yet the reaction was
as though I was picking on soc.motss alone.  A little paranoid, aren't
you?











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Clayton E. Cramer
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